True story behind vortex?

[Tegg]

I never thought I would see the day that a cave diver would think that a gate or grate was a good idea regardless of the number of divers who know better and disregard their training limitations and venture past daylight. People die mountaineering, skiing, white water rafting, skydiving and hiking into the Grand Canyon every year. Fortunatley, no one is bulldozing the mountains into the canyons or draining the rivers to PROTECT the ignorant........JUST YET. IMHO, it is not the cave that is dangerous beyond the gate, it is the diver that left the daylight zone that is.

As soon as our litigation process begins to include "personal responsibility", things will get better for cave diving.

[OutlawCaver]

Once again, IMHO, it is not their cave to gate or grate in the first place, just like the Ginnie grate. I would like to see an official land survey or deed that shows either site owning the springs. Can you show me a copy of Obama's US birth certifcate at the same time? At that time, I will retract my statements about their right to install a grate/gate and will accept Obama as the Commader In Chief.

[fixxervi6]

heh, come to Texas, a land owner here actually has a cave located IN a navigatble waterway, he has local law enforcement confinced that even tho the water is navigaible by statue he OWNS the cave and anyone entering it is trespassing.

[Sludge]

Can you show me a copy of Obama's US birth certificate at the same time... and will accept Obama as the Commader In Chief.

Howling here!

[Line Squirrel]

As soon as our litigation process begins to include "personal responsibility", things will get better for cave diving.

Better for the entire country. But there will be a $hit load of lawyers out of work.