I assume the "Full Cave" requirement is still in place... in which case this poll did not directly address this option. Full Cave exceeds the requirement on 46% of the votes.
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I assume the "Full Cave" requirement is still in place... in which case this poll did not directly address this option. Full Cave exceeds the requirement on 46% of the votes.
"Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." --JFK
Its not addressed in either the poll or the OP, but fno mentioned (full)Cave certification later on in the thread... http://www.cavediver.net/forum/showt...l=1#post170827Originally Posted by Greenwood_60
I would assume that the Cave certification is reqiured, as its not a partial certification step like Intro or Apprentice.
Please explain how I am only less than 1% when you clearly stated, "piss on the other 90%." So you repersent 90% and I only 1%?
Sorry SuPrBuGmAn but we were talking about the polls where prior experience was one of the options. OBTW, welcome back I truly learn a lot from your postings.
"...some night, in the chill darkness, someone will make a mistake: The sea will show him no mercy." John T. Cunningham
We're not going to have an "Occupy Cow" are we?
It's bad luck to be superstitious.
No...I really hope not.We're not going to have an "Occupy Cow" are we?
"...some night, in the chill darkness, someone will make a mistake: The sea will show him no mercy." John T. Cunningham
Thats easy.
90% of the people in the poll wanted, at a minimum, someone with prior experience in order to dive at Cow. The new standards don't account for previous experience, we're all assuming you just have to be a Cave diver.
I'm less than %1 of that %90. You are less than %1 of the %10 that seems to think its perfectly fine to dive Cow without any previous experience.
Clear enough?
I am too, one of us just comprehends the numbers a little better than the other
Thanks though, happy to be back!
No! OK go back and read again what I wrote. I AM a diver with prior experience (several times) of diving there. I AM a team menber of a team that has an Ab Davis member with us. I never said or implied that anyone should dive it without having dove it before or having an Ab Davis member within the dive team or in my case both.
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"...some night, in the chill darkness, someone will make a mistake: The sea will show him no mercy." John T. Cunningham
How did you vote?
It really comes down to if you voted "no prior experience", or anything else...
If you voted anything else, you're part of the %90 and pretty much got pissed on by the decision to open up Cow to pretty much just about anyone.
Conservation be damned, open the flood gates.
If you voted, "no prior experience", you're part of the chosen %10 who apparently have more weight with the CDS organization than the great majority otherwise. This in no part has anything to do with your experience. It has everything to do with how much experience you think should be required to dive Cow.
Was this poll an official vote on a Nss-CDS issue?
A decision like opening up cow to full cave divers is something that Is really decided at a bod meeting not an unofficial poll on a web forum. CDF is not an extension of the CDS and you can't really feel betrayed by the bod if your opinion on this wasn't officially taken into account.
You gotta go to the official meetings an voice your opinions.
That happens only 4 times a year, at one location. There is no way to join in via phone, computer, skype, or carrier pigeon.
Makes it kinda difficult to have your voice heard doesn't it?
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