Like pulling out goldline donated by the NACD and replacing it with #18 twisted? That's some sound logic right there!Originally Posted by Jim Wyatt
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Like pulling out goldline donated by the NACD and replacing it with #18 twisted? That's some sound logic right there!
Does it matter who donated it? It sounds like a dumb move no matter who donated it....We could also say that teeing all jumps is sound logic too, but I think everyone (else) got my (and Tegg's) point.
Jim Wyatt
Cavediveflorida
You are absolutely right..I doesn't matter who donated it.
It is just annoying to see the bandwagon start up every year or so. Seems like every time someone new goes to MX and gets indoctrinated they come online with this crap. IMO, they need to 1) know what the whole story and not just what their indoctrination classes taught and 2) DEAL WITH THIS IN MEXICO and get on with it.
Right on! The gig for WSPSSP, Madison Blue and Lafayette, which are under the auspices of the NFSA line committee is: No configuration changes without prior approval from park management via the line committee chairman. Removing a gold line and replacing it with a white line is a configuration change and is not supposed to be done. If a line is in need of repair, repair it, but make no line configuration changes. Thats pretty simple and easy to understand, I think.
As NSS-CDS safety chairman I have asked all NSS-CDS safety officers to adhere to the same general guidelines.
As far as i am concerned this is a Landowner Relations issue and also a common sense as well as a general respect issue. I realize that common sense and respect are a rare commodity these days.
Whatever they do in Mexico should be dealt with in Mexico, not here or TDS.
Jim Wyatt
Cavediveflorida
A great example of the "not our effing problem" attitude...
Why not even rename the forum - Exclusively North Florida Oriented Cave Diving Forum?
I guess you missed the date range..in 2005 we went down there to help solve your problems...nothing was accomplished because no one would admit any wrongdoing or cede any ground. Given that and the years or your "party's" constant childlike behavior (tshirts, stickers, etc) and you still can't solve your problem, I would have to say you want the issues.
Once again, we "up here" have tried. Please tell me what it is that you have done but go on a forum and stir the pot. Show me results not excuses.
Grow up and realize that you have to put your big-boy panties on and know that someone is not going to be there to wipe your butt every time you go to the bathroom.
How about lead by example? Since we "up here" failed, why don't you show us what can be done vs. Simply making crap residual income from tshirt sales to newbies?
Be part of the solution..not part of the problem. Grow up, face opposition and deal with it. Otherwise we will be constantly reminded that you "down there" can't take care of yourselves.
Also, the fact this is still going on effing 10 years really shows everyone "up here" just how good you guys are at solving problems. It also shows how masterfully you have been handled by Steve.
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Huh?
Have you seen North Florida politics? Do you WANT that in MX?
He has a point.
No worries, everyone can play as you can see there is not much talk about cave diving either.
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