Full Cave & Tec Training

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I've always heard that cavern/cave IS technical diving. This came up at an NACD meeting awhile back when I suggested separating "recreational" cave diving from "technical" cave diving. I was roundly and soundly thrashed for entertaining the idea that any aspect of cavern/cave could be considered recreational.

I think the poll is not interested in such distinctions, rather simply wanting to know what tec training in addition to cave.

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[atedeschi]

the reason is because if you are doing full cave types of dive, you should probably be at least deco trained or adv nitro.deco. Most caves if you are diving to 3rds you are going to run into deco, yes there are exceptions. it came up in discussion and was said that if you are full cave you should at least have deco procedures.

[MORGAN]

Yeah, I'm trained in technical diving. It's called cave diving.

This is my feeling as well, though I think this poll is interesting to see what other training people have in addition to full cave.

Every technical diving certification except cave can be gotten from some instructors without ever having to let go of the anchor line.

Well, maybe not DPV...

Mike

[JahJahwarrior]

Why don't instructors add AN/DP to full cave courses? Two birds with one stone.

[BabyDuck]

jah, you can. i did adv nit with full in jan.

[Sludge]

Why don't instructors add AN/DP to full cave courses?

As my post mentioned, mine did. Only he didn't charge for it. His thinking is that decompression procedures are a part of cave diving.

[atedeschi]

I believe deco procedures should either be a prereq for full cave, or teach it with full cave, but use the apprentice course for how it was meant to be used (aka no zero to hero courses), make a diver show x number of dives before moving on, so they can gain experience. Just because you can demonstrate skills, without experience with diving they have not had a chance to handle issues. sorry alittle of topic.

[dogwatch]

The *only* tech course when I started was cavediver! It was cavedivers that developed all of today's "tech" courses. Mixed gas came into recreational diving through cavedivers.

same here

[argyris]

The *only* tech course when I started was cavediver! It was cavedivers that developed all of today's "tech" courses. Mixed gas came into recreational diving through cavedivers. Sheck Exley developed the first civilian gas tables.

Same here, I discover now that I am getting old!!!

However, cave diving IS technical diving. Technical diving is NOT necessarily cave diving.

Argyris

[StaceyS]

Why don't instructors add AN/DP to full cave courses? Two birds with one stone.

This was covered in my Cave 2 and Tech 1 training

Stacey