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    Quote Originally Posted by TraceMalin View Post
    . I've compared it to Christianity. JJ was like Jesus and the WKPP was like the 12 apostles and the earliest church community. GI3 was like John the Baptist crying out in the Internet wilderness. Andrew Georgitsis was like the Apostle Paul traveling around teaching teams that formed their own churches...
    You obviously have failed bible study numerous times. I don't recall John the Baptist being described as a giant inflamed arsehole.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TraceMalin View Post
    I've compared it to Christianity. JJ was like Jesus and the WKPP was like the 12 apostles and the earliest church community. GI3 was like John the Baptist crying out in the Internet wilderness.
    Funny.... There was a parody organization on the internet (around the tech-diver list era) called the Greater Organization of Divers (G.O.D)- guess who proclaimed themselves as the most anointed member?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bent View Post
    What do you mean? You worked for the US distributer or do they have branch office in the US?
    I worked the booth for XDeep with Sebastian Jastrzebski at the cave conference in Marianna.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OFG-1 View Post
    You obviously have failed bible study numerous times. I don't recall John the Baptist being described as a giant inflamed arsehole.
    I would imagine John the Baptist's delivery wasn't always received well by many 1st-century Palestinian Jews.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fastest1 View Post
    I've never understood why GUE divers wear a wrist compass. I get it in Mexico where you might surface and need to find your way back in the jungle. But other than that it's useless for survey, and you're not finding your way out of a cave with it. Is it just a gimmick?
    I can’t tell if you’re sincere or just trolling. So I’m going to assume good faith. But a universal idea in cave diving is that you “dive the cave, not the line.” The line is only a navigational aid, and an emergency piece of kit to get you out of the cave in a loss of visibility. But you should always have a compass on you, easily accessible, and reference it on the fly on your way in, and on your way out, at every navigational decision at a minimum and more often perhaps. That way you know what the cave is doing. And if the cave starts doing something you don’t think it should be doing, you might stop and verify that you didn’t accidentally miss a blind tee or a visual jump or something.


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    Quote Originally Posted by WFLS View Post
    ... didn’t accidentally miss a blind tee or a visual jump or something.
    What's a blind tee?


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    Quote Originally Posted by bent View Post
    What's a blind tee?
    Usually a tee buried in the sand. But also could be a tee in low visibility. Or a tee on a tie off where you only saw two lines. Usually not reinforced with line arrows.


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    For just cave diving, not actual exploration, a compass really serves no purpose at all and I would dare to say that those who claim they use them are actually really not, or only extremely rarely, especially in a silt out what use use compass then?
    However for exploration a compass is a must, there is no way you can seriously hunt for going cave unless you gave a compass and know what direction to push.
    Obviously for hand survey a compass on a survey slate is a must, unless you have an MNemo.

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    Great so the concensus seems to be that no one really knows.
    Thank you all!


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    Correct. Just pick a dive computer that includes a digital compass function, pay attention to the orientation of the cave, and you are good for most any imaginable scenario. No need to carry a dedicated compass on typical cave dives.



 

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