Do you talk about diving accidents with family and friends?

[EBRAUN]

I would just like you to answer my question about the IUCRR email you posted about. What was so threatening and grandstanding? You called me pathetic....everytime you mention me on this forum its always negative, why do I bother you so much? its not a pissing match I want to know why you've never come to me to talk about it.

[rddvet]

I would just like you to answer my question about the IUCRR email you posted about. What was so threatening and grandstanding? You called me pathetic....everytime you mention me on this forum its always negative, why do I bother you so much? its not a pissing match I want to know why you've never come to me to talk about it.

The whole point of the email was to find the source of who gave me my info and deal with them, which I wasnt going to do.
I?ve never had a positive experience in our interactions at ginnie. I will happily discuss it with you in person because I?m sure nobody wants to watch us squabble back and forth.
At this point I?m just going to ignore the bickering and will leave it for a person to person discussion.


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[EBRAUN]

when and where?

[oceancurrent]

Thanks for the hijack, EBRAUN! Can we get back on topic now?

Dont get me wrong. They think its nuts. But my other hobbies are private pilot, competetive practical shooting and kiteboarding, all of which have inherent risks. Im sure their view is all of my hobbies are nuts, but they know I dont care if they approve or not.

Right on

By definition all members of the Nuts club don't care about approval. That's the way!

Good to know you fly too. Anyone who has any degree of aviation background would vigorously defend the need for accident reporting, so that makes total sense. Crazy to see that there are individuals out there who live in fear of potential litigation related to accident reports, yet have inserted themselves in position of gatekeepers.

Anyone else interested in chiming in on how they communicate (or not) accidents to family/friends?

[diveconjeff]

My wife and I used to sky dive. She is also an open water diver and claustrophobic. She has not much in interest even in tourist wrecks and no, zero nada interest in cave diving. She trusts me not to make silly mistakes. Carry over from sky diving I guess.
She is aware there are risks involved. She knows, as should any cave diver, the longer you are invoked the chance of losing an acquaintance will continue to increase. It can happen to anyone and there are many ways a tragedy can unfold. We all know that.
Many of us have a spouse that cave dives. I would like to think there would be active and meaningful discussions there.
In discussions with my wife, I may mention an accident but it generally stays at a superficial level. I tend to focus more on the recovery effort. Then move on to the service.
My sister ?knows? I am simply daft. No discussions with her or my siblings other than they may know I am going to a service.
Nor do I discuss with non Cave-divers.
I will discuss dive plans with my wife depth, runtime, gas management and such. She is comforted by this approach.
Speculation about a fatal dive is certainly a discussion I avoid with her. There is no upside I can see.


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[sskasser]

I am happy to talk to people at the level I think they're able to handle/understand/absorb without straying into emotionally driven conversation, similar to firearms, backpacking, and diet. For all of those subjects, I'm glad for the opportunity to help someone understand and become less afraid of something based on a lack of information or an abundance of misinformation.

As far as cave diving safety and my family:
My dad's response: It sounds crazy and dangerous to me, but if you're doing it, you must be doing it safe and smart because that's just how you are.
My husband's response: Just don't ask me to go! And WHY haven't you been cave diving lately? You're getting that look again. For GAWDS sake GO!
My daughter's response: 1) She didn't like me diving prototype rebreathers (understandable) 2) She asked that my first cave dive after my son's death be not solo. Otherwise, she wants me to enjoy.
My son's response was to put a photo of me cave diving on the hog board at USMC boot camp. One of his DI's ended up taking cavern training with me.
I just told my mother to watch "The Cave" because "it's a pretty realistic view of what I do." Yeah.

All of my family have been told in no uncertain terms that NO dive buddy, dive manufacturer, or dive site is to ever even be considered at fault should I kack on a dive. Ever. They have plenty of life insurance and I will haunt them in the not fun way if they blame anyone but me.

Talk about it, gently and with consideration for where they are, not where you want them to be.

[sam]

Well said


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[Dsix36]

Basically I will share everything since I really couldn't care less what anyone thinks or says about me or my activities. I grew up doing stupid dangerous bronco and bull riding, then went to safer dirt bikes and stock car racing, cave diving and skydiving still seem less likely to kill me than my past hobbies did.

[Nitrogenius]

You are very fortunate to have such understanding friends/family! I come from a family of non-divers/non-pilots who are convinced that any of these activities, even in their most benign form are crazy irresponsible. No amount of reasoning and explaining of risks mitigation has had any effect on their views, so I have long given up. I am fortunate to have a far more understanding spouse. Even she has limits, however.

i can totally relate

[MORGAN]

I discuss them with my wife who is also my primary cave diving buddy, and with my other cave diving friends. I don't bring them up in other groups, but if someone else does I'll answer their questions the best I can and try to put the risks of cave diving in perspective.