Gold line

[MikeT]

When you share a line you ask permission prior to doing so. At least that's what I was taught. If you don't, you risk it not being there when you return.


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Yes. A brief conversation in the parking lot and the use of a cookie is all it takes.

[OFG-1]

Yes. A brief conversation in the parking lot and the use of a cookie is all it takes.

Hey, I've seen Law and Order SVU episodes that started that way.

[cmint]

Yes. A brief conversation in the parking lot and the use of a cookie is all it takes.

Even easier to just not run a primary at Ginnie, and pray you don't get tangled up in someone else's mess on the way out.

[Jim Wyatt]

When you share a line you ask permission prior to doing so. At least that's what I was taught.

That is correct.

[MarkR]

I read two references to the "owner" of the Devil's system. If I'm not mistaken, the system is not owned by Ginnie. Now allowing people to dive that system from the "owner's" property is where the liability comes in. (happy to be corrected if I am wrong).

what he said...


I never understood while at the same time as all European systems are berated as being evil socialism.. this no personal responsibility and all is someone elses fault behavior became so implemented in the systems and accepted..


Seems totally counterintuitive..

Not hard to understand from my perspective. No society that I am aware of has it all figured out. One of the major flaws with the USA, is the mentality that any "victim" deserves to get paid. ..and a legal system that tends to back that up.

[Nitrogenius]

One of the major flaws with the USA, is the mentality that any "victim" deserves to get paid. ..and a legal system that tends to back that up.

Well the basis of any 1st world legal system is that victims get compensated, so that is no flaw.. the flaw is more in the views and definition of what constitutes an eligible victim.
Most legal systems outside of the US definitely question such eligibility once the "victim" acts utterly stupid against all commons sense and foremost breaking the rules, so basically becomes a victim of its own stupidity. So in such systems it is hard to get any claim even accepted to be looked at by the legal system...

No society that I am aware of has it all figured out.

That's a fair statement and I never wanted to imply that Europeans would have it all figured. In regards to litigation risk though, it works far better as common sense would always come first..

[MarkR]

Well the basis of any 1st world legal system is that victims get compensated, so that is no flaw..

Perhaps I could have phrased it better. By "victims ...get paid", I meant that anyone who has a bad experience deserves lavish cash payout. Such as winning the Lotto. I understand that sometimes monetary compensation is the best way to settle an injustice. But when a person can trespass on your property and hurt/kill themselves... and then, expect any pay-out.. there is a real problem.

That's a fair statement and I never wanted to imply that Europeans would have it all figured. In regards to litigation risk though, it works far better as common sense would always come first..

I lived in Germany for 6 years and have fond memories of my time there. I do get a little exhausted hearing from folks who try to make 'apples' to 'apples' comparisons between societies and governments with very real differences.

[bent]

In regards to litigation risk though, it works far better as common sense would always come first..

Yeah, you can't get sued for stuff like this because we aren't allowed to do anything to begin with. The few caves we have are closed by the nanny a-holes that run the country.

[Wizard]

Did we not thrash all this out 10 years ago? Then 7, then 5, then 2..............

[twaldo]

Did we not thrash all this out 10 years ago? Then 7, then 5, then 2..............

I thought history repeated itself... Sort of like the StarWars movies....