P II

[twaldo]

See, try to show them something new and they just don't want to go.

between my dry caving and wet caving I was pretty hard core into whitewater canoeing. I was a solid III-IV open boater, had a pretty solid open boat roll to the point I pulled a combat roll off in the middle of CorkScrew a class IV rapid on the Chattooga River. It was raining HARD in North Arkansas and a friend called and prompted me to goto Richland Creek a solid Class III wilderness run.... I was good with that. Got there and the creek was BLOWN so he was like... I got this other run, called BossHollow, its just like Richland at normal levels... lets go do it............................

Moral of the story, he dropped me on a solid Class IV-V if not V run.... I survived and boy do I have stories....and sadly no pictures (I was the first OpenBoat decent)

Pete, I don't want to have those KIND of stories about a dive site with you that I've never heard of before, EVEN if I get pictures out of the deal. Nothing personal

[JE]

Is this a dive that is appropriate with a Naui Cave I cert?

http://www.runawaylobster.com/scubaclasses/cavei.htm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g4uVANdwGgY

Naui Cave 1? Where have I been ? I am so sorry to have missed all of this ! Not ! Whatever happened to the NSS/CDS courses ! They offered the best instructors & Instruction/skills training ever !

I give up or maybe not !

[Michael F]

between my dry caving and wet caving I was pretty hard core into whitewater canoeing. I was a solid III-IV open boater, had a pretty solid open boat roll to the point I pulled a combat roll off in the middle of CorkScrew a class IV rapid on the Chattooga River. It was raining HARD in North Arkansas and a friend called and prompted me to goto Richland Creek a solid Class III wilderness run.... I was good with that. Got there and the creek was BLOWN so he was like... I got this other run, called BossHollow, its just like Richland at normal levels... lets go do it............................

Moral of the story, he dropped me on a solid Class IV-V if not V run.... I survived and boy do I have stories....and sadly no pictures (I was the first OpenBoat decent)

Pete, I don't want to have those KIND of stories about a dive site with you that I've never heard of before, EVEN if I get pictures out of the deal. Nothing personal

Sounds cool but...

[twaldo]

Whatever happened to the NSS/CDS courses ! They offered the best instructors & Instruction/skills training ever !

I give up or maybe not !

Honestly (yeah I have 22 dives and I'm saying this) I think ANY program that is teaching 1/6ths is outdated... every person I' have known that took an intro class that included 1/6's dove 3rds ANYWAY.... its just like muscle memory... if you go switching the game in the middle it messes up your thought processes... Come on guys, if you have standards that are worth following maybe your divers would.... and you can have awesome instructors without regard to the agency.



Let the flaming begin

Tim

[FW]

Ya know Tm, all the joking would go away, if you went ahead and started the next level classes

[MikeT]

Honestly (yeah I have 22 dives and I'm saying this) I think ANY program that is teaching 1/6ths is outdated... every person I' have known that took an intro class that included 1/6's dove 3rds ANYWAY.... its just like muscle memory... if you go switching the game in the middle it messes up your thought processes... Come on guys, if you have standards that are worth following maybe your divers would.... and you can have awesome instructors without regard to the agency.

At least you know better than those that wrote the standards. That's quite an accomplishment for Cave 1.

[twaldo]

working on it... but you are wrong they joking will always be there because I make it a point to be the target.

Next class is adv nitrox/deco and I needed a drysuit for that. Ended up with a suit by same manufacture as yours, but need to replace a neck gasket and then it needs to cool of a bit before I start trying to gear up and die of a heat stroke

As long as I'm not too horrible with my skills, I'll take the joking. It's when I become the joke because I really am that bad that I'll need to start worrying.

Tim

[twaldo]

At least you know better than those that wrote the standards. That's quite an accomplishment for Cave 1.

at least I don't violate my organization's standards.... where it seems everyone that should be diving 1/6ths is.

The standards are staying the same because it is easier to leave them than it is to change them, but seems to me that leaving them is implying that people should violate standards which starts it's own vicious path for those divers.

And my certification level has nothing to do looking at the trend of divers from the various organizations. It is something the organizations REALLY need to look at.

[kensuf]

I thought you went deeper than 100' in Little River?

[Superlyte27]

Tim on a difficulty scale of 1 - 10 for cave diving, church is a 3.