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    Default Insulation Rooms and a Douche Alert

    Whoever you are that decided to run your line from up high in the ear on 9/16/2012 straight through the middle of the ear, in the middle of the passage, then about 6' off the bottom so it could flap in the flow I have a few observations.
    • I hate you and was cursing your fail for the first 10 min of the dive
    • In all my dives into the ear I've never seen such a crappy job
    • If you put your line ANYWHERE other than where you ran it that would be an improvement
    • You need to spend more time learning/practicing line running skills
    • Next time close your eyes and toss the reel in any direction and tie off there, it will be better than your initial choice
    I hope that this was some sort of spoof on not what to do, or a new student being allowed to screw up for learning purposes. I thought about cutting the line into pieces and leaving a note filled with obscenities but decided against it.

    Once on the trigger the peaceful rhythm of the dive took hold and cast out the angry.

    The insulation rooms were a great dive, scootered to 2k and jumped into the left passage. Followed it around, up through a dark river layer, back down to the whale bone. This is our first time checking it out and I thought it'd be much larger and grander than it was.
    Insulation rooms were really nice when we weren't in dark river water. Vis was 30-40' and about 2-3' in the dark water.

    Ginnie was only about a .3 out of 10 on the lord of the flies scale. No drunks, beer cans, nudity, death metal or rap. Only the occasional horns and rafters. Almost quiet and peaceful...yea, it was weird.


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    We once came out of Ginnie and there were like 6 lines in the ear. Three of them were in the middle like they were thrown there. With the flow it was going to be a bear to pull our reel, so one team member went up and cut the knot loose and we rolled it up from the bottom and followed the other lines out. There should have been a ""caution-cluster ahead" sign in the bottom of the ear.

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    I've seen lines that wrapped around mine before being wrapped around both gold lines, not to mention the primary tie off at the steps going to a secondary tie off on the floor, right in the middle of the peacock cavern...

    I was glad there was no need for anything but a safety stop, it has to be dangerous to laugh that much and I couldn't stop as long as I was looking at it!

    Some people... I mean, we all have our bad days, but...some of us apparently have badder days.

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    Out of curiosity, it is so easy to go through the eye. Why is it avoided?


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    Or we could just...yanno...have the line start in OW...


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    Reel skills are not taught anymore.

    Welcome to the new cave divers.

    Gotta lower the bar enough so that everyone can pass.

    Joe


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    "After my first 10 hours on a rebreather, I was a real expert. Another 40 hours of dive time later, I considered myself a novice. When I had completed about 100 hours of rebreather diving, I realized I was only just a beginner."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wizard View Post
    so one team member went up and cut the knot loose and we rolled it up
    Your team cut someone else's primary line!

    why was it cut, did someone get entangled?

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    Quote Originally Posted by billyf View Post
    Your team cut someone else's primary line!

    why was it cut, did someone get entangled?
    I think they cut their own line so they could just roll it up and not have to mess with unwrapping it from the other lines. At least that's how I read it.


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    Quote Originally Posted by PfcAJ View Post
    Or we could just...yanno...have the line start in OW...
    No, if we brought the line out to OW, it would let untrained divers know there's a cave there (those who didn't notice the two huge warning signs on site, missed the waiver they signed in the lodge, didn't watch the lodge video they were supposed to, and didn't see the big hole in the ground already, at least).

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    ...AL...he's just about worthless for anything other than giving you extra gas.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Capt. Tyler View Post
    Out of curiosity, it is so easy to go through the eye. Why is it avoided?
    I suspect it's because it is longer, requires a tiny bit more gas and is more of a PITA with a scooter.

    Quote Originally Posted by billyf View Post
    Your team cut someone else's primary line!

    why was it cut, did someone get entangled?
    He clearly communicated they cut their own line loose so they could reel it in from the bottom. Re-read before you panic and post.

    "With the flow it was going to be a bear to pull our reel, so one team member went up and cut the knot loose and we rolled it up from the bottom and followed the other lines out."

    Quote Originally Posted by Tegg View Post
    Reel skills are not taught anymore.

    Welcome to the new cave divers.

    Gotta lower the bar enough so that everyone can pass.
    Joe, I'm in complete agreement with this, so you may want to reconsider your position on the issue just for the sake of consistency.

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