How can you state that you are interested in caves, but have no interest in the caving organization?Originally Posted by Slüdge
Are you a life member of the NACD?
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How can you state that you are interested in caves, but have no interest in the caving organization?
Are you a life member of the NACD?
Richard Blackburn
All comments are my own.
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I love the wet caves, and agree with the tenets of the CDS. I have zero interest in dry caves.
Just like I love to watch baseball, but have no desire to watch soccer. I love "Jeopardy!" but have no interest in "Wheel of Fortune."
Whoever said money can't buy love never bought a puppy.
I was a dry caver and NSS member before starting cave diving. I'd continue to be an NSS member even if a CDS-only membership were an option. That being said, I think that a CDS-only membership for people who are interested only in cave diving is a good idea - might bring in some more members.
Mike
Member of NSS, NSS-CDS, NACD, and NRA
Ditto...
The NSS is an organization of cavers. Not "dry" vs "wet. If you want to be a member of an organization of just cave divers, the NACD is that. I repeat my question, are you a life member of the NACD? The reason I ask is your statement that you would become a life member of the CDS if it were not for requiring NSS membership.
Sections of the NSS is a group of members. How could you be a member of the subset without being a member of the whole?
Richard Blackburn
All comments are my own.
x3 - I would also join for life. And before you ask, no, I am not a lifetime NACD member (for several reasons that have nothing to do with this poll/thread).
I know divers who only renew when they want to either go to a conference, or dive CDS properties.
Ditto.
Whoever said money can't buy love never bought a puppy.
Why are WE the subset?
Let's make CDS the primary organisation, and have a section called "potential future divesite section" that explores dry caves.
Andrew Ainslie
Almost extinct cave diver
Join em all!
The money spent on membership is such a small thing and it really does keep the caves open to us. Those who are active members, volunteering their time and talents, are dependent on the dues from the inactive members. It's not just nice magazines in the mail, but stairs, boardwalks, access, tables, and all the PR to state authorities, landowners, etc.
I'd be a member of the NSS, CDS, and NACD without Cow, without the mags, without cool stickers to put on my truck, without conferences and workshops. Why? Because the work they do in caving and cave diving is worth the dues all by itself. Conservation, Preservation, Education, Training, continuing to support explorations and survey....
If you are not a member, I guess you have your reasons, but the paltry amount needed for dues surely can not be one of the reasons. Give something, anything. Maybe if you can't or won't be a member of one or more organizations, then contribute time and talent? Make a donation to a special project once in awhile....
The NACD has some worthy projects you can donate to (see the website) - like helping us get money for more Water Quality Test Kits so we can expand the caves/springs that are being tested with results posted for all to see (member or not) on the website. Check out it and send a Check!
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