Originally Posted by J_glenn06
No, you do not need to be a member, and we look forward to seeing you at the workshop!
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No, you do not need to be a member, and we look forward to seeing you at the workshop!
a.k.a. Florida Cave Diver
Thanks Bill!
Joseph
There is no limit. We'll always find a way to go deeper and deeper. That's been the pattern all along.
--Sheck Exley
Well I just love the NSS magazines.... I just don't have time to add more caving into my life as it's full already.
stunning photos..
LL
Yes - the NSS News has some great photography. That alone is worth the NSS portion of the dues. If you like, you can visualize the dry caves in the photos as being full of water.
Mike
You know I really feel sorry for those guys, we have full 3D access to all parts of the cave and they have to spend lots of time and energy climbing up and down. But they do get to take some great pics with no water in the way. maybe one day i'll try it.
I just think that since the CDS is a sub chapter of the NSS then to be a member of the CDS you should also be a member of the NSS.
If it were not for the NSS we would not have a CDS. Remember just because you do not dry cave, you are still a caver. Why not learn about all aspects of caving. We all benifit each other.
With out the NSS, we might not be were we are at. Wheather you are just a member of the CDS for the UWS or to get access to some places, and not wanting to be a member of the NSS is to me just not right. We are just one big orginzation. Remember the CDS is a Nationaly orginzation thanks to the NSS.
SLIM
It is pretty addictive, just like the wet version....except there's unlimited gas and deco time. Granted, it's a "little" more strenuous at times (although you can stop for a break anytime!), but I can grab a helmet, lights, knee pads, and water...and be set for the day inside a dry cave. Just don't mention "how nice this cave would be if it were flooded" to the hard-core dry-only cavers...especially if you're not sure of the way out!You know I really feel sorry for those guys, we have full 3D access to all parts of the cave and they have to spend lots of time and energy climbing up and down
As for the original topic...the Cave Diving SECTION of the National Speleological Society is just that...a SECTION of a larger group of cave lovers...of all types. There is power in numbers, and we're part of a pretty big group. Being active in both the Section and the parent organization is a great way to help protect all the caves, and the access to them.
I
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I have sometimes thought while clipping on my ascenders - if this cave was full of water I'd just take a deep breath and gently float up there without all this climbing.You know I really feel sorry for those guys, we have full 3D access to all parts of the cave and they have to spend lots of time and energy climbing up and down
Mike
Well said!
Mike
You know whats funny is that were the only Grotto that requires NSS membership in order to join.
So if the other Grotto’s “which are all Cavers” don’t feel the need to require their members to join the NSS why is it that the CDS “which is a mix of Cavers and NON-Cavers” requires it?
I have no interest in dry caves or the NSS, I am a Diver that likes to dive caves.
I would be a life member of the CDS if NSS Life membership wasn’t required.
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