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    It is instructive to just read through the irap section here and count the number of roll off incidents...One of the most frightening that i have heard about is a backmount diver at jug who rolled off both posts in the bedding plane before the restriction.

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    Even if I THINK I feel a bump etc , my left hand goes to the post and checks...Same reason I switch regs thru out the dive.
    But that's just me.
    Always try to make sure I have gas AND my buddie(s) do too!

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    Quote Originally Posted by wingman View Post
    ...One of the most frightening that i have heard about is a backmount diver at jug who rolled off both posts in the bedding plane before the restriction.
    ....yikes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TonyDCaver View Post
    For example if I was going through a real tight nasty area and I had already donated my long house and I have a roll off in which I cannot get to my left post, I can use the inflator hose to breathe off of until I'm on the other side.
    When cave diving gets to be that dangerous, I'm quitting and taking up basket weaving.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slüdge View Post
    When cave diving gets to be that dangerous, I'm quitting and taking up basket weaving.
    Hey better to be prepared then be dead right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by wingman View Post
    It is instructive to just read through the irap section here and count the number of roll off incidents...One of the most frightening that i have heard about is a backmount diver at jug who rolled off both posts in the bedding plane before the restriction.
    I had a bunch of roll-off's (both right and left) in those big tunnels in Mexico last month. Was able to fix them on the fly but if I couldn't have---I was able to leave one helluva trail of broken decorations coming and going so I could have been found. Gave "Trail of Tears" a whole new meaning.

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    I've never had a roll off, but it's surprisingly easy to happen if youre inattentive. It only takes about a foot of continuous ceiling contact for the valve to completely shut.

    I also check all my valves after making contact with the ceiling, not that it ever happens of course.

    Mike


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    Quote Originally Posted by TonyDCaver View Post
    . If one routes the inflator off the right post it can be used as a third reg essentially. For example if I was going through a real tight nasty area and I had already donated my long house and I have a roll off in which I cannot get to my left post, I can use the inflator hose to breathe off of until I'm on the other
    -Tony DC
    If this happens you just stop, reach back and open the valve. It's probably way easier then trying to breathe through a power inflator. just my 2 cents.

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    During my GUE-Fundamentals course (Tech pass/Open Water) I learned (and trained) to reach the valves and to do the valve-drills (have to admit without thinking what I was doing but to make it a second nature) and without making a mess (valve drill in a position +/- 0.5m and maximum 20 degress horizontally).

    During de GUE Cave-1 course I really learned what I was doing during a valve-drill (thinking diver concept).


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    Everyone should be able to reach their valve(s) and be able to open/close them when needed. This even goes for OW divers. Many times people jump in with closed valves, half opened valves etc, etc.

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