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    Quote Originally Posted by mmcauliffe View Post
    L for leave and T for to...
    I thought you might like that...

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    Quote Originally Posted by mmcauliffe View Post
    L for leave and T for to...
    I think you've already said to much...

    the T is OBVIOUSLY for Traverse! Duh!

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    i just wanted to pop in and say thanks for the interesting read. i'm only intro at this point, but as i look forward to full, these discussions really help to point out the potential issues you could encounter.

    thanks!


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    marking your markers T and L is good, but it could easily kill you in no vis ie, both exits are marked, you don't know the nearest one
    Not to mention the linecluttering and the need for at least 2* more markers

    Last edited by scubicious; 05-13-2008 at 01:53 PM.
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    I've been in some pretty bad siltouts, and never so bad that I couldn't read a marker. But point taken. In that case, perhaps cut two shapes out of the markers, say a small V on one set and a flat section on the other.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aainslie View Post
    I've been in some pretty bad siltouts, and never so bad that I couldn't read a marker. But point taken. In that case, perhaps cut two shapes out of the markers, say a small V on one set and a flat section on the other.
    Great idea, still it must be very cumbersome to carry, and complicated to follow a line with more than 30 markers on it

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    Quote Originally Posted by scubicious View Post
    Great idea, still it must be very cumbersome to carry, and complicated to follow a line with more than 30 markers on it
    What if you lay them out of order?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Daedalus View Post
    Ok I have a scenario for you, a dive team enters the water and does a stage scooter dive. Their dive plan is to totally drain their stage bottles on entrance and then exit on their backgas. When their stages are empty 3000' in and they go to switch to their backgas they realize their doubles are full of argon. What would you do at this point?
    DIE! Argon won't sustain life!


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    Quote Originally Posted by aainslie View Post
    I've been in some pretty bad siltouts, and never so bad that I couldn't read a marker. But point taken. In that case, perhaps cut two shapes out of the markers, say a small V on one set and a flat section on the other.
    I was thinking jokingly that braille would be a solution... in fact it actually would. It would not have to be overly complex, but may be more recognizable than holes (NOTE: I only have one marker with holes in it and I can tell there is a hole, but I am not convinced it would be obvious in 0 vis. YMMV). Although holes are easier to make.

    Quote Originally Posted by jimdiverman View Post
    What if you lay them out of order?
    If you simply had two categories of markers (IN and OUT), then you could simply have two separate stacks of markers. Another suggestion from an earlier post had each member in the team mark the T (this would obviously only work if you are in a team and further only break a tie if you are in a 3 member team). If you mess that up, then I guess you have a conundrum

    Great thread though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scubicious View Post
    Good idea, but perhaps w/ gloves would be useless
    how do you guys personalize your markers??
    Well I sure as hell dont use gloves unless Im in the ocean.



 

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