Death at P1

[twaldo]

I am a little shocked, that there were no posts here. Just heard 2nd hand about a possible rebreather death at P1 (2nd hand from friends cavern diving there, who also did cpr on a diver). They called their cavern instructor, who then texted me. That is all I know. Admins, please move if I chose the wrong forum to post.

[Diverlee]

Not releasing the name at this time


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[twaldo]

personally I don't even want to know who it was... but what should I do right the next time I dive P1... I personally don't think much when I hear about a death at a cave like Eagles Nest because I NEVER plan on diving there... but P1?? I have more dives there than any other cave... what was done that I can avoid doing in the future... or what can I do differently that will keep me breathing. Of course condolences to all involved including the rescuers; but now it is about improving the process.

[twaldo]

After more conversation I think the BIGGEST thing that is starting to stand out to me is the lack of CPR training in the cave diving community... maybe that should be a new additional requirement before starting cave/cavern training. I know at least two of the cavern divers have reached out to their instructor for that training because of this event.

[mr_v]

After more conversation I think the BIGGEST thing that is starting to stand out to me is the lack of CPR training in the cave diving community... maybe that should be a new additional requirement before starting cave/cavern training. I know at least two of the cavern divers have reached out to their instructor for that training because of this event.

Fully agree. Not just for divers - it is a good skill to have. I grew up in a slightly different environment, but first aid was taught in high school and was a requirement for being a student in a good standing.

[PsychDiver]

I know nothing about this incident, but I have had first aid training with CPR (it was required for my Rescue Diver training, and I've allowed my certification to lapse). It is worth being aware that the efficacy of CPR is considerably lower that most people know, and the farther away you are from professional medical help (e.g. at a dive site in the woods or on a dive boat) the worse the odds of a positive outcome are. Good skill to have? Probably. But no one should beat themselves up for not knowing it -- even administered by a trained bystander in the field, the odds of a positive outcome are minimal.

https://www.npr.org/sections/health-...n-enduring-cpr

[PfcAJ]

I know nothing about this incident, but I have had first aid training with CPR (it was required for my Rescue Diver training, and I've allowed my certification to lapse). It is worth being aware that the efficacy of CPR is considerably lower that most people know, and the farther away you are from professional medical help (e.g. at a dive site in the woods or on a dive boat) the worse the odds of a positive outcome are. Good skill to have? Probably. But no one should beat themselves up for not knowing it -- even administered by a trained bystander in the field, the odds of a positive outcome are minimal.

https://www.npr.org/sections/health-...n-enduring-cpr

Eh… CPR for the elderly doesn’t tend to have great outcomes, but for younger people it’s a very different conversation.

Go learn CPR. There’s no excuse for not knowing it in 2025.

[twaldo]

Eh… CPR for the elderly doesn’t tend to have great outcomes, but for younger people it’s a very different conversation.

Go learn CPR. There’s no excuse for not knowing it in 2025.

10000% YES!!!! I mean how many people realize there is an AED at Peacock?? Probably needs to be closer to the water. BETTING it didn't even get pulled during this event.

[Garth]

10000% YES!!!! I mean how many people realize there is an AED at Peacock?? Probably needs to be closer to the water. BETTING it didn't even get pulled during this event.

You have a good point. AED is incredibly important in emergency situations. As a nurse I am trained and have been in many life or death emergency situations. I hope to never need to use these skills when I am enjoying my hobby and hope that doesn?t come out wrong. One thing I will be doing is paying closer attention to emergency equipment location when I head to these locations. One thing that is key to the best outcomes as a nurse is being aware of resources, knowing location of equipment and preparing for potential emergencies. Sadly, I?ve never even considered an AED in peacock or any other location when I go diving. I?m so stoked to get underwater I?ve never considered AEDs.

That?s what I?m taking from this conversation. Create a plan. I?ve always felt better even in the event of a loss, when I was prepared and performed well in the emergency. It?s never easy knowing someone didn?t make it, but there is nothing worse than managing the feelings following an unorganized response to an emergency.


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[Terry D]

I'm not sure I should even post this but I've heard second hand (from a fairly reliable source) that the AED at Peacock was used but the batteries were dead. Apparently it was not maintained. Again, this is ONLY a rumor.