What Deco Algorithm do you use? (Poll)

[Jack Hammer]

Well, I did learn a little bit about that scientific methods stuff in college. And when I picked up a specialty in determined Reliability, Availability, and Maintainability analysis. It is a bit of a requirement in engineering.

What I did NOT find in the video - did I miss it? What was the bubble model that generated the huge deep stops that were actually in the study. I would really like to find that, but searches on the specified name from the paper are not coming up.

I believe the bubble model used was called BVM(3). ☺

- Jeff

[Jax]

I believe the bubble model used was called BVM(3). ☺

- Jeff

Yes, I know. I find discussions OF its use but nothing I can sink my teeth in. Thanks.

[TaraR]

Yes, I know. I find discussions OF its use but nothing I can sink my teeth in. Thanks.

If you are looking for a "calculator" you won't find it. However the BVM(3) model is well documented in the literature, although in its equational form. You being an "engineer", shouldn't have any problems with the handling the calculations required to come up with the schedules you would like to look at.....

[Jax]

If you are looking for a "calculator" you won't find it. However the BVM(3) model is well documented in the literature, although in its equational form. You being an "engineer", shouldn't have any problems with the handling the calculations required to come up with the schedules you would like to look at.....

That is what I am looking for - the literature in which it is well-documented

[jcr]

Jax, you, like others on the "deep stops" thread, seem to be missing the point. These are not schedules that anyone would actually use in practice. The study was designed to produce DCS and the profiles were exaggerated to produce statistically meaningful results.

[Nitrogenius]

Let me rephrase this - does anyone know the bubble model they used in this study

You might have better means to access it than anyone else, given your service background..
It is a Navi Model.. they do not share too much of their stuff
BVM (3)

[Nitrogenius]

Jax, you, like others on the "deep stops" thread, seem to be missing the point. These are not schedules that anyone would actually use in practice. The study was designed to produce DCS and the profiles were exaggerated to produce statistically meaningful results.

The way I understood it though was that the model actually would have been intended to being used..
For sure though within the model the stops were accentuated to make differences statistically relevant..


BTW.. Jax a certain programmer of a widely used bubble model would love your argument..
He was claiming that these profiles have nothing to to with Rec-Tec diving and thus there are NO conclusions to be drawn from the test..
Neglecting the designed approach to the study..
And please look at the heat maps in the video of Simon..
Or go to the source that thread at RBW.. it is still there.. Just some stuff might not appear to make sense anymore due to the heavy cencorship after the fact, but it is still there..
loadfs of comparison heat maps have been produced and actually using "conservative" profiles with current models, that rec-tec divers would actually dive..
that is in the video as well though..

[Jax]

The way I understood it though was that the model actually would have been intended to being used..
For sure though within the model the stops were accentuated to make differences statistically relevant..


BTW.. Jax a certain programmer of a widely used bubble model would love your argument..
He was claiming that these profiles have nothing to to with Rec-Tec diving and thus there are NO conclusions to be drawn from the test..
Neglecting the designed approach to the study..
And please look at the heat maps in the video of Simon..
Or go to the source that thread at RBW.. it is still there.. Just some stuff might not appear to make sense anymore due to the heavy cencorship after the fact, but it is still there..
loadfs of comparison heat maps have been produced and actually using "conservative" profiles with current models, that rec-tec divers would actually dive..
that is in the video as well though..

Thanks!

[jcr]

The way I understood it though was that the model actually would have been intended to being used..
For sure though within the model the stops were accentuated to make differences statistically relevant..

Yes, they are probabilistic models that can produce schedules you could actually use but for the purposes of the study the probability of DCS was significantly increased. No one associated with the study is suggesting that these are schedules anyone would use in the field.

[floridabob]

Man! But I am confused. Don't you guys use computers?

Or are you contemplating writing your own programs? Cause frankly I think the way people feel is so anecdotal and subjective that you could spend your remaining days varying your conservatism and M values and never think anything changes.

Bob