Cookie vs. Arrow vs. REM

[FW]

So what are clothspins for?
I learned these were for antiques


Kidding aside: I understood that clothspins have been used in lieu and exactly as a cookie.
Somehow I get the impression that in Florida these are used for a specific reason other than in lieu of a cookie?


If the clothspins are used as a Cookie how do you resolve marking your direction at an offboard Jump when the arrows are not pointing towards your exit?

You put the clothespin on the side you came from, just like a cookie. The cookie was also invented in Mexico, but they have started to become popular in Florida, and are replacing clothespins now.

[Squirrel Girl]

So what are clothspins for?
I learned these were for antiques


Kidding aside: I understood that clothspins have been used in lieu and exactly as a cookie.
Somehow I get the impression that in Florida these are used for a specific reason other than in lieu of a cookie?

Clothespins are used instead of cookies because they are easier to clip on and off a line than cookies. Sadly, they are also easier to fall off your bungie/tubing holder, too. I can't tell you how many clothespins (some busted) that I've found floating around in caves. Convenient, but worthless.

Maybe FW's new clippy tags will be better?

[Nitrogenius]

You put the clothespin on the side you came from, just like a cookie. The cookie was also invented in Mexico, but they have started to become popular in Florida, and are replacing clothespins now.

So you tie the spool directly into the line and put a clothspin next to it in your direction?
That does not sound like a very safe way of marking to me.. both the line and the marker could easily move along the line
I'd see the use of a Rem in that case much safer.
As stated earlier I could also see the use of 2 cookies, one to tie in (and by that fix the tied in line at this specific point) and a cookie next to it marking your direction


Out of curiosity for those using clothspins.. Are these and if so how personalized so you can identify them in no vis?

[Kelly Jessop]

I use clothes pins for T's, note an area of interest I plan to come back to, hold my jump line in place, survey stations etc. Very fast to deploy and stow once used. Where people say they are easy to knock off the line,this has never been an issue for me,but can't say it won't happen. There are cheap clothes pins with poor tension that I stay away from,but have found that the wood ones have better spring tension and don't break as easily as the plastic ones.

[kwinter]

Actually I was taught to use both a cookie and a clothespin together. The cookie ties your spool to the line (safer than tying directly in) and the clothespin gets put on the exit side of the cookie. Maybe that seems like using suspenders and a belt, but that's what I was taught. Which is one reason I think the personal directional cookie or REM is an improvement.

[allen]

I see the value of REM's and I will follow one only if I can verify that is my guide's REM. For myself, find gendered cookies more convenient. The personalization on my cookies also has a directional meaning for me. I have learned from experience to put a cookie on the Peacock side of the Cisteen jump so that my buddy won't go swimming up to Olsen Sink.

[Nitrogenius]

Actually I was taught to use both a cookie and a clothespin together. The cookie ties your spool to the line (safer than tying directly in) and the clothespin gets put on the exit side of the cookie.

So exchanging the clothspin by a cookie this would exactly be what I meant by using 2 cookies to do that..
Interesting that this is being taught by someone already. In the past I had gotten no reaction whenever I suggested this as a possible way forward..

[victorzamora]

So exchanging the clothspin by a cookie this would exactly be what I meant by using 2 cookies to do that..
Interesting that this is being taught by someone already. In the past I had gotten no reaction whenever I suggested this as a possible way forward..

Yeah, it's something that I'm beginning to believe may be the best option for me.

[patpicos]

Re:clothes pins, what are people s preference wood vs plastic and how do you personalize them

[nakatomi]

Re:clothes pins, what are people s preference wood vs plastic and how do you personalize them

Mine are wood (Walmart, $1.88 for 100). If dropped or forgotten in the cave, wood will rot fairly quickly, plastic not so much.
I write my initials on them.