A Drone Flew Over A Pig Farm To Discover It’s Not Really A Farm.

[WEPIV]

Jill, that is alarming as (at least for Florida and the US) it used to be anything seen easily from a public area can be photographed. The rare exceptions were regarding privacy issues like children at a school.
This is what we were taught in media law at UF in the late 80's, but who knows what all has changed since then. (I figure you guys found this out doing one of the PBS docs with Wes...?)
As a former photojournalist, I was always happy to know that we could shoot almost anything from any public access. I remember the cases involving the paparazzi and Jackie Kennedy Onassis as well as some actress photographed topless with a long lens from a wooded area adjacent to her property. Two cases where the law did not side with the photographer and rightly so. There was also a case in Jacksonville where a photojournalist shot the interior of a house fire where you could see the outline of one of the victim's bodies after it had been removed. Also ruled an invasion of privacy.
Why a farm can't be shot from a public road is beyond me. In my old days, I would happily shoot anyway and have it challenged in court (while working for a paper so they'd pick up the legal defense bill)!
I'm much happier shooting mostly pretend stuff now....

Correction: Even school children can be photographed without permission when they aren't in class. (Teacher has to give permission during class.)
The drone is probably the issue here as there are significant threats to privacy which have not been worked out legally.

[MORGAN]

Many, many states have recently passed "Ag Gag" bills after heavy lobbying from the various meat industries. All for the exact reason that if people sees what goes on in there they'll start to notice just how horrible it is.

If somebody doesn't want you to see how they're producing food, it's probably not a good idea to eat it.

I'm an enthusiastic carnivore, but rarely eat "commodity" meat. Tracy and I both grew up in farming & hunting families and are intimately familiar with every step of the process that culminates in a wrapped package of meat. We aren't raising any meat animals now, but get our meat from neighbors who have small farms, plus some wild meat from the woods. Locally produced, grass-fed, hormone and antibiotic free meat is only slightly more expensive than meat from the supermarket, and well worth it in terms of quality, ecological sustainability, and in supporting our neighbors instead of corporate agribusiness.

Mike

PS: There are 9 deer up in the pasture behind our house right now, all made of tasty meat! But deer season is over, and my father is a retired state game warden. If I yielded to the temptation to add one to our freezer, I'd never hear the end of it!

[sandy]

If somebody doesn't want you to see how they're producing food, it's probably not a good idea to eat it.

Where is Shirley Kasser when bacon is mentioned

[MORGAN]

Probably busy frying some up!

The bacon we eat at home comes from happy frolicsome pigs - well, happy right up to the last second.

What's the old saying about neither laws nor sausages being pleasant to see being made?

[MORGAN]

"People who respect laws and enjoy sausages should never watch either one being made."

A quick look at the interwebs shows many versions of this, attributed to everyone from Mark Twain to Otto von Bismarck.

[tflaris]

Holy cow! I never knew anyone read any of these.

Back to our regularly scheduled program.


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[MichelleC]

Absolutely disgusting, but I'm not surprised. Current factory farming methods are ridiculously removed from what most people think of when they think of a "farm".

The only way to make a difference is to show people where their food really comes from, and offer alternatives.

The bacon we eat at home comes from happy frolicsome pigs - well, happy right up to the last second.

Same here. They have one bad day. Up to that point they have been happy cows/pigs/chickens living life according to their instincts.

Here's a good place to start when looking for a local producer: http://www.eatwild.com/products/index.html

[patpicos]

Tony, see what i started ill feed u more stories !

[tflaris]

Patpicos
The credit goes to you. Keep them coming!

It has long since come to my attention that people of accomplishment rarely sat back and let things happen to them. They went out and happened to things.

Leonardo da Vinci


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[TONY CHANEY]

Anyone care to chime in on the small cages that house calves for veal in cave country? I always loved this sign.