DPV gas planning

[Sludge]

... or we could always go back to "always scooter in solo configuration, with untouched back gas."

[RN]

I'm already carrying 4 AL80s. I'd have to add another couple to make that happen...

[jj1987]

I'm already carrying 4 AL80s. I'd have to add another couple to make that happen...

Or do a setup dive?

[PfcAJ]

Place safeties, do setup dives.

Long range diving ain't easy.

[LiteHedded]

Place safeties, do setup dives.

Long range diving ain't easy.

psh. what do you know

[FLDVR]

Just buy a rebreather then you never have to worry about swimming out...and forget that pesky bailout...rebreathers never fail.

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[PfcAJ]

4 stages is really where RBs start to become most attractive, imo.

Still need the tow scoots and safeties tho.

[Kevin Leonhardt]

From the NSS-CDS Training Standards

Exit cave while gas sharing and using DPVs in full and simulated zero visibility while maintaining visual/touch contact with the guideline as appropriate.

...Anyway, this isn't about agency standards but rather about real life application.

Typically I do a pretty good job of keeping my mind open and my mouth shut, but this is bothering me too much. I think your interpretation of the standards are whacked. In your citation above nowhere does it mention both divers on the trigger while sharing gas. You're kidding yourself if you believe that is a safe way handle an OOA situation.

There's only one way that meets the standards in every scenario: donor clips his scooter into tow position, grabs crotch strap of OOA diver, OOA diver drives out. They are in touch contact and prepared to handle zero vis, restrictions, etc.

[bamafan]

Kevin I am not trying to disagree with your statement above but I was taught in my scooter class that the oog diver needs to be towed. I was told that more than likely the oog diver would be stressed and more than likely not in the best of shape to be scootering. I can see the reasoning behind your way as the diver with issue is placed in front and in control of the situation and it also keeps the procedure the same as if they were swimming. I can see the reasoning either way.

[Garth]

Wait, people actually scooter in Zero visibility?

I'm asking because I don't know. That seems dangerous and unnecessary but I have no training with a scooter and only about 15minutes worth of time playing on one.

I think if I was in that situation now I probably would clip it off and swim.

Interested to here some discussion of real life experiences.

Thanks
Garth

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