Is this really acceptable?

[ryanlala]

FWIW,
Perhaps the outside world is right, cave divers really are crazy. The he said/she said that continues to go on in this small community day in and day out is insane; yet can be easely understood with very little logic. Cave diving is the most competitive, Non-competitive sport there is and has been since the first cave dive was made. The second cave dive was further penetration and a longer dive time than the first. The 3,4,5, ect. the same thing. Cave divers have Type A personality, adrenaline fueled bodys, and by nature are very competitive individuals. Everyone has their own opinions and thoughts, of which each person thinks theirs is by far the best. Is this driven by mega ego's? Of course it could be! But, it could also come from a confident humble person who has vast amounts of knowledge; far exceeding that of your own. Will this cause some hurt feelings, brused egos, and create grudges? Duh! So here is the best advice I can give to any diver.

"Forums are a place where people go to learn and gain knowledge from people who have something to offer, yet there are many peole on them who have nothing to offer only opinions and rants that cause friction in the community. If you spend as much time diving as you do on your computer you wouldn't have time to concern yourself with the business of other people and the politics that forums have! You also wouldn't have the time to rant on public forums about the last person who pissed you off. You could write your complaints and grudges on your wet notes, but then again who really gives a $hit whats on your wet notes.

Safe Diving

[Sludge]

Cave divers have Type A personality, adrenaline fueled bodies, and by nature are very competitive individuals.

Hmmmm. I think about the cave divers who have been my major influences and mentors - Jamie Hempstead, Forrest Wilson, Kelly Jessop, Lamar Hires - and not a single one of them would be described that way.

[ryanlala]

But, it could also come from a confident humble person who has vast
amounts of knowledge; far exceeding that of your own

You are Correct! They all fall under the statement above.
Which is what everyone the cave diving community should strive to be like, and pass their knowledge on to others. I have never seen one of those Gentleman post a rant, cause friction, or put someone else down! Which is why they are all so respected in the community.

[phillip1]

how big is Jacob's Well?

[speleodiver]

how big is Jacob's Well?

It is 6300' at a depth of 140 max and average 123. Passage is 8-10 wide and 4-6 tall. It has a main passage, B tunnel and a c tunnel.

[phillip1]

are there any pics or videos?

[Cavemn]

are there any pics or videos?

The first 500 feet


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I was discussing a talk I was giving with my attorney wife. The talk was about the personality of cave divers. I had only an hour and that included Q&A time. My wife said, "Only...Only an hour? I could give that talk in two words. Arrogant A#####e." I just smiled and asked, "What two words would you use to describe lawyers?"

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I was discussing a talk I was giving with my attorney wife. The talk was about the personality of cave divers. I had only an hour and that included Q&A time. My wife said, "Only...Only an hour? I could give that talk in two words. Arrogant A#####e." I just smiled and asked, "What two words would you use to describe lawyers?"

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The first 500 feet

What is that about 53 seconds in? I thought it was a stage, or safety tank, but it looks more like a barrel.