Because I want to be the bikini-clad open water diver who lives!!!Originally Posted by Real1628
Wait a minute I think I wrote that wrong. Lol
Welcome to the Cave Diver's Forum.
Yes-here is map on how to find it and have fun
No-there is a spring here,but isn't a site for OW dives
Because I want to be the bikini-clad open water diver who lives!!!
Wait a minute I think I wrote that wrong. Lol
It's not the years in your life that matter, but the life in your years.
Are you trying to admit something? LOL
Nope but I probably look better in a bikini the most the stuff I saw at Ginnie this weekend.
It's not the years in your life that matter, but the life in your years.
Thanks for a good laugh. Maybe there are pics here http://www.peopleofwalmart.com/
This is probably the route I would go. Of course I wouldn't give directions to the cave, and would inform them that the cave in the scenario that Kelly set-up was an advanced cave site and only the sort of place more seasoned cave divers traveled. I would hand them my husband's business card and suggest to them that a cavern course goes a long way and hopefully they will take that information to heart and consider getting the proper training to enter an overhead environment even if it isn't through my husband. I would probably let them know that while this site wasn't for someone new to cavern or cave diving, there are plenty of other amazing sites to be seen in the local area.
Interesting you would take that approach. Many years ago, when cave training was pretty new, I had a similar incident. There was an obviously OW diver "teaching" his buddy to cavern dive. I told him several reasons that wasn't a good idea, and offered to teach him cavern. He never got back to me, until a year so later, when she showed up as a candidate for cavern instructor at one of my institutes. He worked his way up to cave instructor, and even president of a "training agency".
Here in the south we would give very specific directions like: it's over yander aways. If you passed the piggly wiggly you have gone to far.
Years ago at Cow my dive buddy and I were coming out after a dive and encountered a SOLO openwater diver getting in the water with gear that was right out of the seventies. It even looked like it was barely staying together. Hell...the tiny little first stage only had one LP and one HP port. He was manually inflating the BC!!
We tried to explain to him the dangers and how fragile the Cow system is and he just ignored our advise, said he'd been diving the springs and "this" cave for years and that we should mind our own "f"ing business. Some people are going to find a way to kill themselves no matter what good intention people with a higher level of understand have. At that point I was more concerned about what damage he might cause to the cave than to himself. We tried and were rebuked.
I sometimes wonder if we called a ICURR team to be waiting for these yahoos's as (or if) they emerged if the huge number of people with the proper gear and law enforcement waiting to take a report and notify their families, would have any effect.
At some point personal responsibility has to start taking the forefront and people have to stop passing the buck. But as another famous Forrest said "Stupid is as stupid does".
The hardest thing to do is teach someone something they already think they know. I believe is was Socretes that said this, or it could have been Forrest w/ 2R's...it's hard to remember.
If you think education is expensive, try ignorance. - Derek Bok, President Harvard University.
Smile and say "if your life is that bad and you are sincerely interested in killing yourself there are better and less painful ways but please don't cave dive around me unless you are properly trained and can prove it"
And don't cause others to risk their lives to recover your body from the caves........
If you think education is expensive, try ignorance. - Derek Bok, President Harvard University.
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