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  1. #21
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    Not taking solo diving into account, isn't deep dives on air in caves one of the big no no in the 5 rules?


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    [QUOTE=Azchipka;181703]Did a 185' ocean dive on air once. Was a dumb choice that I will never repeat.


    I'm curious what was the problem?? not being a smartass, I've been there with no ill effects... closely monitored though


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    Quote Originally Posted by ffdiver5597 View Post
    Not taking solo diving into account, isn't deep dives on air in caves one of the big no no in the 5 rules?


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    Not for NACD


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    Funny Curt ;o)
    I guess if it was a "eagles nest" like a cave, maybe.
    Huge room to come up in and loose the narcosis before you have to deal with "how to get through this hole to get out".
    But again - I like myself

    Quote Originally Posted by Curt Bowen View Post
    Probably not more than 240, it would depend on the conditions in the cave.


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    I did a 200Ft on air in OW.
    And I don't think I would want to repeat it any more ...
    I'm very thankful for Trimix
    and very thankful for my CCR so I don't need much of it ;o)))

    Quote Originally Posted by Azchipka View Post
    Did a 185' ocean dive on air once. Was a dumb choice that I will never repeat. Theses days I'm with a64pilot air has no place in a scuba tank.


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    Quote Originally Posted by OH View Post
    Funny Curt ;o)
    I guess if it was a "eagles nest" like a cave, maybe.
    Huge room to come up in and loose the narcosis before you have to deal with "how to get through this hole to get out".
    But again - I like myself
    Yes the old days of Deep Nest downstream dives through the 302' pit restriction on air were crazy. I remember once only concentrating on "follow the line stupid" kick "follow the line" kick "o-right the line" kick "I could take a nap right here" kick "line? o its in my hand" kick

    "Get off your butts and EXPLORE"

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    I won't even go to 100 feet in a cave any more without helium. I've had two very, very sobering experiences with recognizing that I am just dull and unable to interpret data at that depth. (I was on Nitrox, but I don't think the narcosis issues are any different.) I don't solo in caves, or anywhere else, but even with a buddy, I know that I am not a capable team member at 100 feet with helium, so I will not do it any more. (This is actually impacting my diving, as I don't see Florida as a viable destination now unless my budget is generous.)


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    I have conducted several narc experiments... in clear water.. 185 no problem... silt out in way less than 100... dopey giddy and disoriented... so in a cave situation...Idon't play... in 100% viz I'm good...but who can garuntee that 100% viz will ever last??


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    Quote Originally Posted by Curt Bowen View Post
    Yes the old days of Deep Nest downstream dives through the 302' pit restriction on air were crazy. I remember once only concentrating on "follow the line stupid" kick "follow the line" kick "o-right the line" kick "I could take a nap right here" kick "line? o its in my hand" kick
    Been there, done that, wouldn't even think of doing it since they invented helium

    The worst part is you are still narced when you first get back to the surface.

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    No deeper than 100' on air diluent, but as long as helium is available trimix is the dill of choice. It is just nice to have a totally clear head when diving, monitering a ccr, and dealing with an overhead environment especially when solo.
    Gabe



 

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