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    Quote Originally Posted by graepaep View Post
    There's no shame in trim weights

    Tanks too short can very well cause a problem regardless of fins.
    Fins can make a big difference. If I use Jet fins, I am very tail heavy. OMS Slipstrams are much lighter, as are Mares.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FW View Post
    Fins can make a big difference. If I use Jet fins, I am very tail heavy. OMS Slipstrams are much lighter, as are Mares.
    I agree that fins can make a difference but I have been in the water with tanks that were too short (not enough weight high enough) with or without fins.


    edit: sorry to get this thread off track


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    Hunter is shorter than me and with the bands at the bottom of the 95s I'm sure his valves are in his pits. Moving the cylinders up any more would push the valves in front of his shoulders and throw off his trim.

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    I'm most likely going to wear thicker thermals on the bottom half and trade my jet fins for dive rites. Still interested in trading my 95's for either 7.25" 120's or 8" tanks 108+.


    The issue arises from the fact that I normally wear just one layer of underarmor under my dry suit without any "real" thermal protection for water >65 deg. so it had very little buoyancy added. When diving <50 deg. or <65 deg for more than 30 minutes I put on my 4th element arctic top for added thermal protection. Looks like I'll need to buy a set of 4th element bottoms just to balance it out.


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    Just changing the jets will make a huge difference.

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    Trim weights seem quite a bit cheaper than a new set of 4th Element gear. Why the aversion to putting any kind of trim weights on?

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    Quote Originally Posted by rotor60driver View Post
    Trim weights seem quite a bit cheaper than a new set of 4th Element gear. Why the aversion to putting any kind of trim weights on?
    Trim weights are OK, if you are under weight, and need weights anyway. If you have heavy tanks, and don't need any more weight, then all trim weights do is cause you to add more air in your BCD. They don't solve near the problems that they cause.

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    i don't know about dive rite fins, or mares, but when I switched from scubapro jets to oms slipstream, my feet came up. The OMS are so much lighter they really make a difference.

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    OMS Slipstreams are light fins. Dive Rite and Mares are even lighter. The issue with those is many people have a hard time getting used to the extra couple of inches in length.

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    I can see that. they seem skinnier too, but that may be the longer length. The OMS are also, I think, stiffer. Certainly stiffer than jets. I noticed right off the extra omph needed to kick, but also the extra glide distance. didn't take but a dive or too before I forgot the stiffness. Now I only notice after doing some open water dives in atomic splits, or my smaller sized jetfins.
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