NO DOUBLES IN GINNIE FOR INTRO CAVERS

[stairman]

I FOUND OUT THIS WEEKEND THAT INTRO CAVERS CANT DIVE IN THE DEVIL SYSTEM AT GINNIE WITH DOUBLES.YOU CAN HOWEVER DRIFT DOWN TO THE EAR WITH THE TUBERS AND GO IN.

[Walter Pickel]

Ginnie is following the rules of your certifying agency. This topic was BEAT TO DEATH on TDS. I suggest you contact your instructor and discuss options. If you were trainied in doubles, it may be possible for you to get a discretionary doubles "cert" if your agency allows for it.

Again, this was beat to death on The Deco Stop.

[stairman]

WELL ILL BE GETTING MY APPRENTICE IN ABOUT A MONTH SO ILL JUST DIVE PEACOCK ECT.HOWEVER I UNDERSTAND THAT I AM QUALIFIED TO DIVE DOUBLES TO 6THS.OF COURSE THERES NO WAY FOR THEM TO MONITER THAT,SO THEY FIGURE A SINGLE TANK ON 3RDS IS SAFE EXCEPT FOR THE LACK OF REDUNDANCE.AS FOR THE FACT THAT THIS SUBJECT HAS BEEN DISCUSED TO DEATH,I AM NEW TO THIS FORUM,GREETINGS ALL!

[Signal 20]

the Caps Lock key is the one to the left between the Tab and Shift keys

[stairman]

Not only am I not a computer geek, but I've never chatted on any forum about any subject. My daughter who does, tells me that the caps lock appears that im yelling. Thats not all the case. Sorry guys. Be patient, my one finger typing, is also slow...

[kuster500]

I'm not an instructor, but if I remember correctly since I was recently in this situation:

NACD allows you to dive doubles at the intro level with a discretionary apprentice form signed by your instructor (good for a year), but not without it.

NSS-CDS recently changed there Standards and Procedures to allow doubles diving at 1/6th's for intro cave divers.

What agency are you certified with?

[stairman]

nsscds. Thats what i was saying earlier, 1/6th on doubles which no one can inforce.

[Bob B]

nsscds. Thats what i was saying earlier, 1/6th on doubles which no one can inforce.

the NSS-CDS did just change the cert from "Intro to Cave" to "Basic Cave". That allows doubles at the Intro level..

As an Intro cave diver, you should be inforcing the 1/6 rule yourself.. (while using doubles)


not trying to start anything... just my 2 psi

[Rich]

nsscds. Thats what i was saying earlier, 1/6th on doubles which no one can inforce.

Charles, just some words of advice.....

Cave instructors and Ginnie staff monitor this forum and it may not be the wisest thing to sign your name if you're going to talk about breaking park rules, diving outside of agency limitations because the rules don't apply to you and there's no way for anybody to enforce them etc

You are not allowed to dive a 1/6 of doubles with an Intro card through the CDS at the Devil's system. However if you contact a CDS instructor, if they choose to they can issue you a Basic Cave certification which will allow you to dive doubles in the Devil's system. Please think a little before you post on a public forum, as there are no secrets in the cave diving community. Hope this helps....

Safe diving,

Rich

[Jim Wyatt]

The Shallow End of the Gene Pool is where the tubers get in the water.