Closed cave

[Kelly Jessop]

Does this pertain to Indian?

Indian is more due to some land in flux with property being sold. There is has been an active effort to reopen this site with some good people in the background performing access negotiation.

[rddvet]

Indian is more due to some land in flux with property being sold. There is has been an active effort to reopen this site with some good people in the background performing access negotiation.

Thats what I thought but didnt know if there was more.


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[rddvet]

Here is another example of said "photographer's" work:

http://www.cavediver.net/forum/showt...ng-Photography

Thanks. I remember that. Didnt realize it was the same guy. So did cave damage due to photography lead to a cave closure?


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[FW]

Thanks. I remember that. Didnt realize it was the same guy. So did cave damage due to photography lead to a cave closure?


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No the closure was as result of him trying to get permission to go back and do more damage. He was refused, so he contacted the landowner and had the cave shut down.

[Kelly Jessop]

Very active effort to get Indian open by cave divers, and the issue there is land for sale. The hypothetical cave(s) closure will be devastating because it is an awesome dive-we lost the Grand Canyon.

[rddvet]

No the closure was as result of him trying to get permission to go back and do more damage. He was refused, so he contacted the landowner and had the cave shut down.

Awesome.

Very active effort to get Indian open by cave divers, and the issue there is land for sale. The hypothetical cave(s) closure will be devastating because it is an awesome dive-we lost the Grand Canyon.

Yeah, the main goal for me going down the Trimix road was to one day dive Indian. It was my main bucket list cave.

[LiteHedded]

Assume you’re talking about the diepolder closure?

*edit* never mind i saw the other thread. i'm up to speed now. carry on

[Daedalus]

Rumor control:

* Yes diving at Diepolder is suspended.
* Yes this was precipitated after an individual was declined a dive and proceeded to contact the landowner and demanded the guide situation be "looked into" among other requests and accusations.
* The Diepolder guides are working with the land owner to restore access and negotiations are ongoing but slow.
* Harassing this individual does nothing to portray the cave community in a positive light.
* People stirring things up to settle personal grievances or create drama are not helping and can be harmful.
* If there is something you could do to help restore access you probably are already involved or we will reach out to you at the appropriate time.

Once a final decision is made on the future of diving at Diepolder everyone will know.

Bob Schulte,
Chairman Florida Speleological Researchers

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[Kelly Jessop]

Rumor control:

* Yes diving at Diepolder is suspended.
* Yes this was precipitated after an individual was declined a dive and proceeded to contact the landowner and demanded the guide situation be "looked into" among other requests and accusations.
* The Diepolder guides are working with the land owner to restore access and negotiations are ongoing but slow.
* Harassing this individual does nothing to portray the cave community in a positive light.
* People stirring things up to settle personal grievances or create drama are not helping and can be harmful.
* If there is something you could do to help restore access you probably are already involved or we will reach out to you at the appropriate time.

Once a final decision is made on the future of diving at Diepolder everyone will know.

Bob Schulte,
Chairman Florida Speleological Researchers

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Bob, thank you for providing relevant information. This has been a "hushed" subject and that has been growing momentum, and tremors were already finding their way to social media. Allowing it to appear on social media in a controlled manner is not optimal,but better than it becoming a slanderfest. I agree portraying the cave diving community positively is important and having good land owner relations are important, so there is nothing to be gained by vilifying anybody.

[bigdave]

Rumor control:

* Yes diving at Diepolder is suspended.

Thank you for the update. I hope you will not meet the same fate as the "Rumour Control" in Alien 3.