wings with bungee on doubles?

[stairman]

I was at The Fill Station,a dive shop in Pompano last weekend when a chick came through the front door wearing her doubles.[to get filled] When she took them off,with my help,I noticed her bungee was in place and pulled rather snug.It was a Dive Rite wing but I cant recall the style.I asked her why she had the bungee on the wing running doubles.I have never seen a caver with a bungeed wing with doubles.I was told to remove mine and save it in case I run a single tank some time.Well she told me that she was taking cave and tech,and her instructor told her to leave the bungee on.Something about less drag.Im thinking possible entanglement issues.Other point of veiws on this would be interesting.By the way,when I asked her who her instructor was?The great Tom Mount.

[MikeH]

So....is this your way of bashing Tom Mount? If so, why not just be up front about it?

Just because somebody has a bungee on their wing doesn't mean they're an accident waiting to happen. If you think so, you need to join a certain organization that I refer to as the Guebers(or goobers).

Bungees on a wing, as in all other things in this sport, are personal preference. I have a bungeed wing on my rebreather. Does this mean I'm unsafe? I have a bungeed 85lb lift double inflator wing with the bungees on the inside of the fabric, so no entanglement hazard....does this mean I'm unsafe?

If you have never seen a caver with bungeed wings, you haven't been cave diving very long.

Mike

[stairman]

No ive only been cave diving for 1 year.Not counting my careless trecks in the early 80s.I can tell you one thing though bud,I in no way am bashing anybody.Beatin around the bush aint my style.go ahead and jump to conclusions there mike,Yippie for your bungeed rebreather.I am still learning and find no reason I cant ask for an opinion.I wasent expecting one like yours.

[Cave Ranger]

Hey Charles.
Maybe you haven't figured this out yet but there are people on this and every other forum who take great joy in blasting whatever it is other people post. It's just the nature of the beast. I wouldn't take it personally. Some people are just uppity and you just have to have thick skin. At the rate I'm going soon my skin will be 12 mm thick and I won't need a Wet or Drysuit.
The only concern that I've heard raised about the bungee's on some brands of BC's is that should there be a leak of some sort the bungees would constrict and hasten the loss of bouyancy. I'm not sure I agree but that's the argument. I think that the water pressure around the BC bladder is sufficient enough to assist deflation. I don't use bungees.
O.K. Here's the part where 57 other people let me know how stupid I am.
Bring it on you tossers!!!

[IowaCaveDiver]

Evalyn Dudas (Susie of SS's mom) custom sews bungies into her Classic DR wings.... I was half going to beg her to sew mine up too... she did a great job, the wings tuck under along your deltoids and the tension is just enough to keep it tucked untill it inflates more than 1/2 full. Great design.... she simply sewed some weight belt webbing folded over along the edge of the wing (bladder removed at the time, I'm sure) which she ran the 1/4" bungie through and back to the inner rim of the wing. I wish I had a picture.... anyway, I'm in agreement with the others, bungies are a matter of preference, but if you're going to use them you want to make sure they are installed/utilized in the safest manner.

-Matt

[Dan Thoms]

So....is this your way of bashing Tom Mount? If so, why not just be up front about it?

Just because somebody has a bungee on their wing doesn't mean they're an accident waiting to happen. If you think so, you need to join a certain organization that I refer to as the Guebers(or goobers).

Bungees on a wing, as in all other things in this sport, are personal preference. I have a bungeed wing on my rebreather. Does this mean I'm unsafe? I have a bungeed 85lb lift double inflator wing with the bungees on the inside of the fabric, so no entanglement hazard....does this mean I'm unsafe?

If you have never seen a caver with bungeed wings, you haven't been cave diving very long.

Mike

Come-on We both know why its not used. She dives with them, big deal Mount had her keep them on,they did alot of things difrently when it started. She was probably used to them, why have her take them off and learn to trim out all over again. Mike dives his wraped up. (fighting the system)Ok
Its old and wore slap out. Next we will be talking about using helium at END of 100ft. Or im tired and may be over re-acting. either way its all the same. Damn haters

[jammer]

I dive a Dive Rite Rec wing bungied and I have never heard of a line entanglement problem with them. I always thought that the concern would be that if you got a leak in your bladder it would squeeze the air out quicker. Like I said I dive with mine bungied and as I hope I do not get a leaking bladder but if I do I know I couldn't hurt the floor anymore than it is in Peacock system LOL.

[stairman]

Ok,so we all know im new out here,and it seems like old subjects are kinda gettin annoying to some.Maybe the internet isnt a good way to poll for different opinions.I would like to clear up my opinion of Tom Mount.Hes a person I could only learn from and would never question his style.

[Serota]

Assuming the bungees are not a negative factor; eg, entanglement, squeezing air out of a leak faster etc. , what positive purpose do they serve? My experience with them was that they caused the wing to inflate unevenly and mess with my trim, but maybe I had them rigged wrong. Anyway, I just finished cutting them off of my OMS double bladder wing and plan on testing it shortly.

[novadiver]

To each his/her own. I have both the OMS 60#(no bungee) and a DR trek (with bungee). Both of these wings would take some serious abuse to put a hole in them. If wing failure is that much of a problem , change your diving habits.



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