14.4v lithium powering a Halcyon HID light?

[diver42]

Is anyone using a 14.4v lithium battery to power a Halcyon HID light head? Will it overdrive the bulb?

Also, has anyone had trouble traveling on U.S. airlines with lithium batteries over 100wh?

[teamkarst]

Is anyone using a 14.4v lithium battery to power a Halcyon HID light head? Will it overdrive the bulb?

Also, has anyone had trouble traveling on U.S. airlines with lithium batteries over 100wh?

I'm using a 14.8V LiIon pack to power an older Sartek/early Halcyon 19W head just fine. Bring the battery as carryon, but the rule is 100wh max. and 160 with prior approval. You are asking if someone has gotton away with more??

[diver42]

I'm using a 14.8V LiIon pack to power an older Sartek/early Halcyon 19W head just fine.

Is that 18W (typo)? Just wondering. Otherwise, thanks.

Bring the battery as carryon, but the rule is 100wh max. and 160 with prior approval. You are asking if someone has gotton away with more??

Edit: It appears that American, Delta, United (maybe), and Virgin all permit lithium batteries up to 160wh. The "prior approval" turns out to be stated airline policy. I didn't check the budget carriers.


"100 - 160 Wh ? 2 spares in carry-on baggage"
https://www.aa.com/i18n/travel-info/...cted-items.jsp

"Passengers are permitted to travel with lithium ion batteries that contain a maximum of 160 watt hours per battery."
https://www.delta.com/content/www/en...ted-items.html

"Personal devices . . . installed with a lithium battery of less than 100 watt hours are permitted in carry-on and checked baggage. Loose lithium batteries are not permitted in checked baggage on any United flight. . . . In most cases, up to two larger lithium batteries (more than 100 watt hours, but not exceeding 160 watt hours) are permitted in carry-on baggage if the terminals are properly covered or insulated." (This one isn't so clear.)
https://www.united.com/ual/en/us/fly...dangerous.html

"Lithium ion batteries for portable electronic devices (including medical devices) with a Wh rating exceeding 100 Wh but not exceeding 160Wh. [hand carried: yes"
https://www.virginatlantic.com/us/en...ods-table.html

[diver42]

Anyone have any problems with 14.4v batteries and the old Halcyon 18w HID lights?

[Jon Nellis]

Edit: It appears that American, Delta, United (maybe), and Virgin all permit lithium batteries up to 160wh. The "prior approval" turns out to be stated airline policy. I didn't check the budget carriers.

Not the answer to your original question, but clarifying Airline travel regulation. https://www.phmsa.dot.gov/safe-travel/batteries

"SPARE" batteries are any battery that is NOT installed in a device/equipment and can only be hand carried. Must be protected from short circuit.

Batteries installed in a device/equipment can be placed in check baggage, but must be protected against short circuit and accidental operation of the device/equipment.

Batteries over 100Wh but less than 160Wh: Can be installed in equipment and checked (no limit, operator approval required), or hand carried (limit of 2 SPARE batteries. operator approval required).

The US regulations now match the international regulations, so there is less confusion traveling overseas, but individual airlines or countries can impose their own tighter restrictions.

Cheers,
Jon

[diver42]

But isn't that based on the approval of the airline? (The late you quoted says "Operator approval required.") I was quoting each airline's "approval" rules. Did I misunderstand?

[teamkarst]

U R correct. I have a 18W, old on 14.8V Li-Ion pack. Was turned on yesterday. The ballast is regulated, in fact, as DC Voltage goes UP, the battery current goes DOWN. The bulb sees no change in drive.

[Jon Nellis]

But isn't that based on the approval of the airline? (The late you quoted says "Operator approval required.") I was quoting each airline's "approval" rules. Did I misunderstand?

The airline is the operator of the aircraft. Airline = Operator