HECK NO!!
Like the previous posters mentioned, I have a State Park pass and do pay my taxes on time.
Is this a bailout of some sort?
Dive safe,
Celia
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HECK NO!!
Like the previous posters mentioned, I have a State Park pass and do pay my taxes on time.
Is this a bailout of some sort?
Dive safe,
Celia
"Work out your own salvation. Do not depend on others."
...Buddha
''Life's tough, pilgrim, and it’s even tougher if you're stupid.''
- John Wayne
You mean there are actually people who haven't dove Sally?!!! I guess if you pay you won't have to muck around in the dark.....
'I assure you, it is not jealousy'
Oh I've dove it. I'm just not into paying $300 to do it again.
Brian
No kiddin', but those false entrances can really be confusing in the dark....
'I assure you, it is not jealousy'
I would hesitate to say own as your property rights are a bit limited...this is willingness to pay not what you actually pay. You most always actually pay an amount less then what you were willing to pay. Have you ever won an ebay auction where you submitted a max willingness to pay and the auction closed for an amount less than that? That's called a consumer surplus and a part of the total benefit you get from the consumption of the good.Originally Posted by cwick
My taxes are going up, the benefits are going down and you want me to pay $300 to do one dive in a cave that I already own
"With regard to cave diving, the great thing is to be carried where you could not have imagined you would ever be, and then to come back alive."
"Wilderness. The word itself is music." Abbey, Desert Solitaire
Actually for those that have snuck it you could say that the price of the dive was what they had at risk to do it. If captured (there's certainly a positive probability of that) there's a cost (gear confiscation and fines) which is a willingness to pay to do the dive. The expected value of that decision is certainly in the couple of hundred dollar range don't you think?Oh I've dove it. I'm just not into paying $300 to do it again.
Brian
"With regard to cave diving, the great thing is to be carried where you could not have imagined you would ever be, and then to come back alive."
"Wilderness. The word itself is music." Abbey, Desert Solitaire
Benthic did not sneak it...
Dive safe,
Celia
"Work out your own salvation. Do not depend on others."
...Buddha
''Life's tough, pilgrim, and it’s even tougher if you're stupid.''
- John Wayne
Did not suggest that he did, just commenting that even a sneak dive implies a willingness to pay to do the dive. Bill
"With regard to cave diving, the great thing is to be carried where you could not have imagined you would ever be, and then to come back alive."
"Wilderness. The word itself is music." Abbey, Desert Solitaire
Not necessarily. People wouldn't sneak it if they didn't think they could do so without getting caught. In their minds they'll get away with it and are therefore avoiding the price (be it money, red tape, servitude, etc).
Brian
Decision making in an uncertain environment is certainly interesting and has been the subject of a good bit of reflection. The decision to sneak might well be where the potential sneakers expected benefit exceeds the expected cost. How those expectations get formed is also interesting and should involve examining all aspects of the situation. Clearly, unless there has been a deal worked with law enforcement or the park, the probability of getting caught is not zero.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wQeVIJ8e_z8&NR=1
"With regard to cave diving, the great thing is to be carried where you could not have imagined you would ever be, and then to come back alive."
"Wilderness. The word itself is music." Abbey, Desert Solitaire
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