And that speaks volumes....Originally Posted by Cindy
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And that speaks volumes....
Meng Tze
-Homo Bonae Voluntatis
Just spotted this. Funny - I was thinking about this property today. I dove today with OFG who I dove there with, a little over a year after we took a look at that property.
It had going cave - but after running about 800 foot of new line upstream, and looking at the very pretty downstream, we still felt it wasn't worth it. Apparently it's still available and dropped even further in value - and II'll bet I still couldn't get 10 serious people together. But if anyone's interested, it's really pretty. I think we pissed them off a little - they probably thought we weren't as serious as we actually were (well, at least I was) and by the end of it they basically called it quits on us. I actually did one more sneak dive in there at 4 AM in the morning... and I suspect I wasn't the only one. For sheer adrenalin try emerging in a sink after being away from your car for 2 hours, wondering if there'll be cops waiting there... it's a rush.
...And also, to give it the appropriate PC rider, very very naughty.
That piece in High Springs will bore you after you've dived it twice. So at $1k each, that's $500 per dive for two quick cavern dives. Hardly worth it. Rather spend the money on one or two more cave trips you wouldn't have done otherwise.
If anyone gets serious about the one in Tallahassee I might be in for $10k. Like John says, it's interesting getting people to commit... I had about 3 serious people and that was it.
And 80 people buying one property? Good luck with that one! I want to see the sales contract when it gets signed...
PS Too funny reading that old thread - I see Jack G and I weren't exactly on speaking terms back then. How time flies...
Last edited by aainslie; 02-22-2009 at 08:48 PM.
Andrew Ainslie
Almost extinct cave diver
Two sinks on the Cathedral System. The sinks that go to the lineeater system should be available soon. They have logged off the area and it is for sale. I know two sinks for sale that go to the old Bellamy system. The sink on Gator Hole is on private land. I know it's hard for us to believe but most people consider a sink hole a hazard and waste of land. They can be had. I just wish I had the money to do it.
"Philosophy is a purely personal matter. A genuine philosopher's credo is the outcome of a single complex personality; it cannot be transferred. No two persons, if sincere, can have the same philosophy."
--Havelock Ellis
Those all sound a lot more worthwhile. One big downside of the Tallahassee piece was that is was a gated community with a lot of shared ownership to make things complicated. It really helps to have a bit of truly freestanding property.
Andrew Ainslie
Almost extinct cave diver
Buying a cave
I'd be interested in buying a share in a cave, but it would have to have at least 800 feet of backmount passage and at least 40 ft. vis. A few tentsites and a Port-a-Pottie might be more practical than a bunkhouse. Normally shareholders' liability is limited to the value of their shares.If the cave were open to all cave divers and camping restricted to shareholders, the Florida Sportsmans' Act would absolve the corporation of liability.
"I like to do dangerous things safely."
Anyone know of any "going" sinkholes in the $32K range ?
~Jeff
Did semi-serious count? I was talking with the wife. Mapping where it was. Discussing with other people. Possibly going to look at it. Then it fell apart. But I wasn't totally committed either. I'd love a cave, but it's tough to do as a group.
You'll end up with somewhere between 2 and 79 factions arguing over this, that, and the other on every cave forum out there. Could be slightly entertaining. You can watch people who used to be friends discuss how "dangerous" and "wreckless" the other is being and how it may bring lawsuits to all the owners, and blah blah blah.
One thing appealing about your original group purchase was that I didn't know, nor was I really friends, with anyone. It was a money risk, sure, but no relationship risks.
Chris
How deep do you want it? For 32K I am sure I can arrange for one in your own backyard....Anyone know of any "going" sinkholes in the $32K range ?
~Jeff
Meng Tze
-Homo Bonae Voluntatis
yeah, you're right. I had about 6 people with varying levels of interest. Still nowhere near enough.
Andrew Ainslie
Almost extinct cave diver
off topic a bit
FYI
Cathedral looked clear the day before yesterday underneath the nice duck week carpet. I went pocking around topside after coming into work three hours early only to find out our meeting only lasted 45Min or so. It looked real inviting.
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