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  1. #31
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    Quote Originally Posted by aw View Post
    It's the same age-old battle of society to suppress the masculine giftings (desire to conquor, explore, adventure, risk, danger, etc). Just a different day. "Let us protect you from yourself, be safe and predictable like the rest of us who have no lives of our own", blah, blah, blah.

    Can I take a guess that the "well meaning relatives" who sent their letters of concern were female? Just remember, if it were left up to women to do the actual explorations of Earth, we'd all still be living in Europe today.

    Get off the porch!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    My dad is much more worried about his daughter "crawling in them holes" than my mom, and my daughter has shown more interest in following in my footsteps (cave diving wise) than my son. Careful with those stereotypes, darlin'. They'll bite you in the bee-hind.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aw View Post
    Can I take a guess that the "well meaning relatives" who sent their letters of concern were female? Just remember, if it were left up to women to do the actual explorations of Earth, we'd all still be living in Europe today.
    And where did the Europeans come from?

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    I guess that I lucked out some how. The family supports my decision to but Mom would rather not hear that I am going diving but would rather hear that I made it back and had fun. My wife has so supportive to the point of when I wanted to buy a VR3, she told me that if it makes the dives I do safer, then buy it. She has at times even told me to go diving vice sitting around the house. But she does put her foot down if the word solo comes up. I would rather die doing something that I love than say a car wreck.

    "...some night, in the chill darkness, someone will make a mistake: The sea will show him no mercy." John T. Cunningham

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    Quote Originally Posted by aw View Post
    It's the same age-old battle of society to suppress the masculine giftings (desire to conquor, explore, adventure, risk, danger, etc). Just a different day. "Let us protect you from yourself, be safe and predictable like the rest of us who have no lives of our own", blah, blah, blah.

    Can I take a guess that the "well meaning relatives" who sent their letters of concern were female? Just remember, if it were left up to women to do the actual explorations of Earth, we'd all still be living in Europe today.

    Get off the porch!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    Wow, mysogynize much? You are kidding right???

    (yeah, I know, not really a word, but you get the idea)

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    Kim is cavern certified, so she's fine with my going in the caves. When we were at Jackson Blue in the cavern I had to turn her around, she was heading down into the cave to see what was there

    Bob K

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    Quote Originally Posted by aw View Post
    ...Just remember, if it were left up to women to do the actual explorations of Earth, we'd all still be living in Europe today.
    From AW's profile:
    Why are you interested in joining the CDF:
    to argue and fight

    Let the firestorm begin! Thanks for keeping things interesting AW <g>


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    Quote Originally Posted by skip
    . I don't want to die in a cave (or anywhere else either), but dang, if you got to go, it's better than a heart attack in front of a tv, or driving down the road, or while asleep in bed.

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    I might argue with two out of three there.
    I get more flak from the people I work with. One girl is a biker. I tell her that is more dangerous than cave diving. I only have to worry about me and my buddies. She has to worry about every idiot on the road. I tell them that my goal is to NOT die in a nursing home. That is my fear.

    Last edited by sskasser; 02-12-2009 at 02:18 PM. Reason: Fixed quote.

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    I've seen many people quote the statistic that it's more dangerous driving to the cave than diving the cave. Hell, I've used it myself. But really? I'm a careful driver and diver. Almost everyone drives though and I think the Darwin effect skews the numbers versus diving. Maybe not but I personally feel safer driving than diving. I think about the potential of dying when I go diving and carefully plan to avoid it. I don't think about it much when driving unless I start driving really fast. Although maybe this means I'm more likely to die driving because I'm not thinking about it and therefore not planning sufficiently to avoid it. As you can see, I'm conflicted <g>. Regardless, I'm not going to stop cave diving. Going to be at JB this weekend. Woohoo!

    Last edited by HappyHacker; 02-12-2009 at 01:49 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bullfrog View Post
    ...my goal is to NOT die in a nursing home. That is my fear.
    Exactly!


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    Quote Originally Posted by BabyDuck View Post
    i don't think my mama likes it, but i'm 40 & she doesn't interfere. in fact, she makes trips easier for me, keeping my baby so i can go.

    the only thing i'll add is - if you're going to call your family after your day of diving, make sure they have an idea of when your day of diving is likely to end. mama went ape**** once, freaked with worry & called ginnie staff, because i hadn't called yet. since i dive peacock a lot, she expected a call by 5 or 6, but i was camping at ginnie and had gone on a galaxy dive. i had the phone in my hand calling her when the staff came by to say she'd called. a freaking family member really harshes your buzz, so try not to go there.
    I make sure to never ever call and say "out of the water, every things fine." No news is good news. Once you start with the calling the one time you don't causes too much anguish. It's not like family is close enough to do anything about it anyway (at least not in sufficient time to make a difference).

    -skip

    "Learning the techniques of others does not interfere with the discovery of techniques of one's own." B.F. Skinner, 1970.


 

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