checking the line

[Angie Reim]

In any case it takes seconds to switch second stages in your mouth unless you try to fold hoses and clip second stage back on a cylinder. This one may affect a trim for a moment especially in "wind". That is what i was thinking reading your message and thats why it became curious to me.

Yep. That's what happened. I was reaching back to better stuff a hose when I caught the "tailwind" and got blown over and behind the line. The line went around a corner just then and I just about got wedged between it and the rock. Nothing serious. Just annoying. The entertainment was when the other folks came around the corner.

Angie

[Angie Reim]

I have similar config: left cyl w.long hose around neck(will donate), right cyl with H-valve and primary short hose w.swivel , secondary "stage"-length hose folded under inner tube on cyl and this second stage clipped to the right cyl(will use as replacement reg or safety reg if cyl used for no-mount restriction). I use just one necklace to clip both active second stages on it (elastic rings between each reg and its clip).

I don't do no-mount (not yet anyway). Dang! I sold my H-valve. Thought I'd never need it again. Sigh.....so much more to learn. BTW I clip off my reg high on the shoulder harness not the bottle. Good point about the stuck reg. Thanks for the info.

Angie

[normblitch]

Of course YMMV and I am not responsible for you pulling off a tie off if you "test" the line to hard...



What does YMMV mean?

"Your Mileage May Vary"

Norm

[normblitch]

ARY wrote:

I have similar config: left cyl w.long hose around neck(will donate), right cyl with H-valve and primary short hose w.swivel , secondary "stage"-length hose folded under inner tube on cyl and this second stage clipped to the right cyl(will use as replacement reg or safety reg if cyl used for no-mount restriction). I use just one necklace to clip both active second stages on it (elastic rings between each reg and its clip).


I don't do no-mount (not yet anyway). Dang! I sold my H-valve. Thought I'd never need it again. Sigh.....so much more to learn. BTW I clip off my reg high on the shoulder harness not the bottle. Good point about the stuck reg. Thanks for the info.

Angie

Angie,

A few weeks ago, Ary, knowing my curiosity with SM, gave me a relaxed suprise OOA drill in the Ballroom at Ginnie...it went slippery as nasal mucosa...I hadn't paid any attention to his reg setup, and frankly couldn't tell from my end (the recipient) any difference from a BM drill...

http://www.pbase.com/eanx/image/38511546/medium

Norm

[normblitch]

Universal loser signal.

Thumb and finger in shape of 'L' on the forehead.

I prefer the 3-way loser variant...same start as above, but point the middle finger FORWARD...no matter WHICH way you look, it a LOSER...

<g>

Norm

[normblitch]

Gold line that is laid in major passages is probably OK but rarely visited places with old line berried in silt might present dangerous surprises.

The last time I was in Madison Blue, the Horseshoe line was in the silt;

http://www.pbase.com/eanx/image/32408979

...not knowing Protocols, I left it that way..Has anyone fixed it?

Norm

[BillGraham]

I've just been using surgical tubing with a big ball on it up high on the shoulder straps to stow the regs, crossed over. I've never used the sidemount rig with backmount divers but I do carry a long hose in my box just in case. I personally don't like the idea of having a hose go behind my head in the sidemount rig although I see lots of people diving that way who know a lot more than I do.

I usually have a couple of pieces of inner tube on each tank for stowing hoses, does anyone see a reason why I couldn't stow a long hose that way rather than behind my neck? Is a 7ft. hose too long to use for that purpose?

[Angie Reim]

I usually have a couple of pieces of inner tube on each tank for stowing hoses, does anyone see a reason why I couldn't stow a long hose that way rather than behind my neck? Is a 7ft. hose too long to use for that purpose?

I tried the 7ft hose with and without wrapping around the neck. The problem was deploying it for airshare. Just too long. Too many loops stuffed under the bands. It would get caught up on the rig. With the 5ft hose and a wrap around the neck, the problem was solved. Anything shorter would not allow a reasonable airshare arrangement that might get someone out alive. Try deploying it and see what happens.

[Widiver_Paul]

I've tried several different hose arrangements when sidemounting, iv'e found what works for me is 40" (stage reg) hoses on both side, with left going around the neck on a necklace, right going around the neck into the mouth, clipped off on right chest when not in use. Similar to my BM setup, so I automatically know which valve goes to which reg. I don't use a longhose as I was taught both divers in a team should be configured the same, and sidemount should involve exchanging bottles after providing emergency gas. The only change i'd make if I could would be to use a custom hose with a length like 32-35" on the left side to take some slack out for better streamlining. I've tried using poseidons (great for the right side), but I don't love their mouthpieces and the way my gums and teeth feel at the end of the dive from the way it tugs on the right. I'd use a swivel, but that just seems to be another failure point (i've seen these fail on 3 divers rigs).

[ARY]

I'd use a swivel, but that just seems to be another failure point (i've seen these fail on 3 divers rigs).

There are two types of swivel. The "ball" type may eventually give up and leak but leak doesn't happen suddenly (you will notice that it starts to seep air long before problem happens). Another type of swivel is rotating V with angle of something like 120deg (Scubapro, many thanks Charlie SCS). Those are much more reliable due to less motion in it. I use it on right cylinder primary reg set.