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    Quote Originally Posted by aainslie View Post
    Hey Bill,

    I probably overreacted. Sorry about that. Still, I'm REALLY sick of hearing about this FBI weirdness. And your comments did seem to say that I was responsible for stealing his property. I see now that you were more stating that he deserved that income. Which I fully agree with. I just wish he wouldn't be so weird about "policing" (for want of a better word) compliance.
    Hey no harm here from my perspective: i think that the fbi weirdness comes from the little message we all see when watching a dvd:

    http://www.fbi.gov/ipr/

    I can understand your issue here, there are few things worse then being wrongly accused. Yes i do think jeff needs to work on his business model as well. There is much value still in his product.

    "With regard to cave diving, the great thing is to be carried where you could not have imagined you would ever be, and then to come back alive."

    "Wilderness. The word itself is music." Abbey, Desert Solitaire

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    What if Andrew's data gets added to that bigger map? Would that be a possibility in the future?

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    Frankly I don't think my data are up to that. I was pretty rough in my measurements, and there's no way I measured to Jeff's level. It would need a thorough resurvey to get to those standards.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aainslie View Post
    Frankly I don't think my data are up to that. I was pretty rough in my measurements, and there's no way I measured to Jeff's level. It would need a thorough resurvey to get to those standards.
    I have an expanded map that is "eyeball and experience" map quality. Actual data, however rough, would be a step up. I'd gladly add it to my map if you want.

    The map is not for sale at any price (but I've given it free to a few people - to remain few).


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    Quote Originally Posted by Gary View Post
    I have an expanded map that is "eyeball and experience" map quality. Actual data, however rough, would be a step up. I'd gladly add it to my map if you want.

    The map is not for sale at any price (but I've given it free to a few people - to remain few).
    Damn Gary, do i have to beg? Bill

    "With regard to cave diving, the great thing is to be carried where you could not have imagined you would ever be, and then to come back alive."

    "Wilderness. The word itself is music." Abbey, Desert Solitaire

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    Nice beggar's bowl, Bill.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slüdge View Post
    Nice beggar's bowl, Bill.
    Thanks....i was hoping someone would notice.

    "With regard to cave diving, the great thing is to be carried where you could not have imagined you would ever be, and then to come back alive."

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    Just to point out that some of the noblest people are beggars......Buddhists.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wingman View Post
    Damn Gary, do i have to beg? Bill
    Ah, I missed the bowl - nice one.

    I'm not posting maps or directions to new places. If someone has been there and has need of a map I have no problem sharing.


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    Well, on that basis Gary, there's a lot of map I can't show you. But thanks for the kind offer to let me give you my data without reciprocation.

    Of course, I'm kidding. It'll all be in the NACD journal.

    There was a time when people shared exploration. What the hell happened?

    Last edited by aainslie; 09-25-2008 at 12:48 AM.
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