JB access

[RN]

We're down to 2 keys to the gate at JB...again... I remember when we once had 5 keys. I hope no one is keeping the keys intentionally. My hope is that out of town divers are in a hurry to get a last day of diving in and get on the road to get back home and simply forget to return the keys to the sheriff's office. If you have done this, please drop the keys in a padded envelope and mail them to Edd at Cave Adventurers, 5211 Limestone Lane, Marianna, FL 32446. I'd suggest mailing them to the sheriff's office, but I'm not sure who checks the mail and if the keys would ever get back to the right place. I'll pass it on to Edd tomorrow that he may be receiving some keys in the mail. And in the meantime, if you check into JB and get a key, please dummy lock the gate, even if you're the only one. Sometimes the key is signed out but the divers don't go straight to the park. So those of us that don't get there at 5 in the morning are left waiting for others to finish breakfast and get to the park. If you run into someone at the park that isn't a regular there or here, please pass this information on. This is really getting frustrating and the season is just beginning.

[sskasser]

Thanks for the reminder about "dummy locking" the gate. It is especially frustrating to finish your dive, only to find out you're locked in and can't leave until the team with the key surfaces or returns from getting lunch.

Would it be possible for the SO to start holding a c-card until the key is returned?

[Kenny P.]

We're down to 2 keys to the gate at JB...again... I remember when we once had 5 keys. I hope no one is keeping the keys intentionally. My hope is that out of town divers are in a hurry to get a last day of diving in and get on the road to get back home and simply forget to return the keys to the sheriff's office. If you have done this, please drop the keys in a padded envelope and mail them to Edd at Cave Adventurers, 5211 Limestone Lane, Marianna, FL 32446. I'd suggest mailing them to the sheriff's office, but I'm not sure who checks the mail and if the keys would ever get back to the right place. I'll pass it on to Edd tomorrow that he may be receiving some keys in the mail. And in the meantime, if you check into JB and get a key, please dummy lock the gate, even if you're the only one. Sometimes the key is signed out but the divers don't go straight to the park. So those of us that don't get there at 5 in the morning are left waiting for others to finish breakfast and get to the park. If you run into someone at the park that isn't a regular there or here, please pass this information on. This is really getting frustrating and the season is just beginning.

Rob,
I know the sheriff's dept. takes care of the sign in for the county and this is a courtesy for we divers. I do fault them somewhat with this. We sign in and list the key # we receive. We are all on file! How hard would it be for them to find out who is not returning keys and take appropriate action? This is not a new problem. It has gone on since we first regained access in the late 90's. I bet if we had to leave a c-card with the sheriff's office to get a key, this would end?
We as cavedivers are not being responsible enough. We blame local traffic from the millpond with the trash, while I continue to pick up condom catheters and find wet paper towels in the floor, when no one else is there but cavedivers. Come on people! Please get your **** together or take up golf and stay away from JB.
Thanks for your plea!
Bless,
Kenny P.

[amphipod06]

Rob,
I know the sheriff's dept. takes care of the sign in for the county and this is a courtesy for we divers. I do fault them somewhat with this. We sign in and list the key # we receive. We are all on file! How hard would it be for them to find out who is not returning keys and take appropriate action? This is not a new problem. It has gone on since we first regained access in the late 90's. I bet if we had to leave a c-card with the sheriff's office to get a key, this would end?
We as cavedivers are not being responsible enough. We blame local traffic from the millpond with the trash, while I continue to pick up condom catheters and find wet paper towels in the floor, when no one else is there but cavedivers. Come on people! Please get your **** together or take up golf and stay away from JB.
Thanks for your plea!
Bless,
Kenny P.

What he said...

Dive safe,

Celia

PS Hey Kenny, we have been diving Hole in the Wall of lately, that is an awesome cave, PM me on TDS please. Thanks.

[RN]

Would it be possible for the SO to start holding a c-card until the key is returned?

I bet if we had to leave a c-card with the sheriff's office to get a key, this would end?

They don't even have to do that. Just take an inventory of the keys at the end of the day. If key #4 didn't make it back, see who signed it out and add that name to a list. Send out a letter to the address on file in a couple of days. And the next time they try to sign in, don't let them.


And Kenny, the condom caths definitely belong to cave divers. However, all last winter/spring, I saw people park outside the gate and walk in to fish in the basin (casting right into the opening of the cave) and others pull up to the docks and get out and walk around, use the restrooms, etc. And people can rent out the pavilion between Labor Day and Memorial Day. I always make an effort to clean up trash there. After my gripe last year things got better from the cave divers' side of things. Hopefully the key situation will get better, too. Unfortunately, I don't think they will replace the keys because these are not your typical Ace Hardware cut keys. They are commercial keys that cost $25 or more to replace.

Rob

[sskasser]

They don't even have to do that. Just take an inventory of the keys at the end of the day. If key #4 didn't make it back, see who signed it out and add that name to a list. Send out a letter to the address on file in a couple of days. And the next time they try to sign in, don't let them.

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Rob

That's a great plan, and would be ideal, but there's more time and paperwork involved with mailing letters and maintaining lists. Most cave divers "need" their c-card, and would definitely come back for it.

Shirley

[RAL]

We are lucky to have the access as it is. Edd & others have worked hard to get & expand the access as we have it. The sheriff dispatchers have other things to do besides sorting out our BS.
Lets not add to the list of reasons why this is a pain in the butt for the dispatchers. Grow up & bring the bloody keys back or take up extreme skateboarding in the your mom's drained swimming pool. Geezze


Roger

[Wizard]

I'd like to see "in the event you do not return the key you will have a theft of property 3rd warrant issued for your arrest as you are stealing property from the Jackson County Sheriff's Office" at the bottom of the waver you sign.

[FW]

I'd like to see "in the event you do not return the key you will have a theft of property 3rd warrant issued for your arrest as you are stealing property from the Jackson County Sheriff's Office" at the bottom of the waver you sign.

Does anyone actually read the waiver?

[OutlawCaver]

How about a combination lock? The combination could be changed periodically and on file at the JCSO when you check in. There are combo/key locks available as well if they wanted certain JC personnel to have keys and not have to track combinations.