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  1. #11
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    If your dad doesnt want you to dive,thats one thing.But if you are already diving,taking a cavern course is the best thing you can do to make you a better,safer more confident diver.A cavern is not a cave and most can be dove by openwater divers anyway but in an emergency they are not trained to react.As a cavern diver you will be.


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    Good reply there. Just tell dad that you will lear so much in your skill level will imporve and your mindset as well. It not only can but will make you a much better OW diver and you will be way ahead of others.

    Like I said, just bring dad down and we can dive on TBL and it will relax him. Hey listen to WJH, one of many that I have mentored and if you knew him and what he has turned out to be, would suprise you.

    SLIM


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    NO!! There are no caves to dive in MO. They're all mine. Keep out! I am forming the MKPP and gonna get all the dive sites there open only to me and my buddies.


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    Quote Originally Posted by WJH View Post
    You might do better to try "fun with managed risk". Cave diving is not safe. WJH
    should they change this "http://www.safecavediving.com/" to that www.FWMRcavediving.com" ...??


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    Hey guys,
    It's not that my dad doesn't want me to dive, (we are both nuts about it) it is the overhead thing. Also Slim, do you know anything about the lake conditions in our parts. I think we might head on down to beaver lake this Saturday.

    Ian Seibert

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    Been a few weeks since I have been in Beaver, but if you call Jim at C&J and talk to him, he can give you a better idea. It will depend on the rain that might come in the next few days.

    If you could make it to TBL I can give better reports.

    SLIM


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    Quote Originally Posted by rkij View Post
    Hey guys,
    It's not that my dad doesn't want me to dive, (we are both nuts about it) it is the overhead thing. Also Slim, do you know anything about the lake conditions in our parts. I think we might head on down to beaver lake this Saturday.
    Come to Table Rock this Saturday and I will dive with the 2 of you. Will be down there diving with my lady friend (who is also aspiring to be a Cavern and possibly Cave diver). We'll be diving all day long Friday as well.

    And yes, SLIM was one of my most influential mentors, both as an OW Diver and as a Cave Diver. He is definitely a proponent of diving within your abilities and training.

    And, LOL, he was the one who sold me my split fins--and then forbid me to use them when cave diving. I'll be diving the splits this weekend in the lake!

    WJH


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    The vis at the bluffs on Beaver was only around 10 feet on the surface a few weeks ago. Once you got below 12 feet depth it dropped down to around 6-8. With the rain we got this morning I don't expect it to clear up any time soon.

    Omni


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    rkij,

    Sorry you could not make it down to dive with us this weekend at Table Rock. We had excellent conditions, with viz of 10-20 ft. and water temps of 60-79 F, depending on depth.

    And I was reminded how good Table Rock can be for training and practice of cave diving skills, with all the trees to swim through for buoyancy practice, all the entanglement hazards presented by branches and trout lines, and some of the overhanging ledges that present a sort-of 3-sided cave to swim through.

    Best wishes to you on your progression as a diver. SLIM is definitely one who can help you advance your skills and attitude.

    WJH


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    Sorry I could not make it. Glad to hear it was a good time and that the conditions are maybe starting to get better.

    Ian Seibert


 

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