Fatality at Peacock Springs

I mentioned no names only my opinon and you delete the post but you let the others post there opinons about this and all they are doing is making a bad situation worse.

I didn't think the "98% of you sorry a*s F%^ks" was appropriate.

Forum Rules:

6. No personal opinions or endorsements (negative or positive) about individuals, businesses, or cave diving organizations.

I also encourage other posters to keep this post on track and away from violating rule number 6. Please stick to the facts and show some compassion for the individuals involved in this accident.

[Dave]

So instead of causing more unneeded grief for the people express your condolences and keep your opinions to yourself.

Its a public forum, and it may be in your best interest to just not view these threads, if it upsets you that much.
Step back, calm down, and do what you have to do.
These forums are going to dig into the accident, and people will say stuff you dont like, if you cant take that, simply dont log on.
You cannot expect readers to refrain from offering an opinion on this type of subject, not in a public forum.

Dave

[johnm]

I AGREE with RH. Too many people on this page try to second guess or back seat drive every accident. If you were not involved THEN DONT POST INACCURATE ASSumptions. I have lost a good friend in a cave and this board trashed the ordeal. U quoted the news paper( which was wrong). Wait for the OFFICIAL report and RESPECT EVERYONE.

RH send my condolences to his famly and friends.

my email is johnm@jpacmedical.com

if u dont like my opinion email me so RULE #6 or 10 or whatever wont interfere with your thougths.

[Momma]

I am posting this report with great sadness and trepidation. I ask everyone to remember please that the family and friends of the victim have not yet had time to grieve nor have all of the facts become evident. As with any accident, there are conflicting reports of events. This accident is no exception. I will do my best to report the facts. If it seems that some things have been omitted it is because the eyewitness reports were conflicting or it is not known at this time.

Three people entered Peacock III to do a dive to Henley’s Castle. The victim’s certification level was that of Cavern diver. His gear configuration was consistent with an Intro to Cave level diver (single tank PST E8130 with H-valve); he was also carrying a stage bottle. The three divers were exiting the castle when the victim indicated that he was out of air. One of the buddy’s (Buddy #1) gave him a full stage bottle and they continued out. Buddy # 2 subsequently had a problem and Buddy #1 stopped to help. That was the last time either buddy saw the victim. The victim reportedly swam past his stage bottle and continued to exit the cave.
They continued out of the cave expecting to find him on deco. When he was not there, Buddy #2 went for help and reported a missing diver. Buddy #1 went back into the cave to look for him.
The two recovery divers got in the water as Buddy #1 surfaced and reported that he had found him and told the recovery divers where to look. The victim was found approx. 1300 feet from the entrance.
After exiting Henley’s Castle heading outbound the victim had taken the first jump to the left (no reel deployed). He was located about 300 feet down that tunnel facing outbound completely out of gas.

I understand that there are still several unanswered questions at this time and that this report may cause some new ones. I ask that we be patient and I am confident they will be answered in the near future.

My condolences to the family and friends of Mr. Jones.

Respectfully,

Shelley Orlowski

[resolute]

Thanks for posting these additional relevant details Shelley.

Heartfelt condolences to the family and friends of Mr. Jones and all involved in this sad event...

John

[Gary]

Three people entered Peacock III to do a dive to Henley’s Castle. The victim’s certification level was that of Cavern diver. His gear configuration was consistent with an Intro to Cave level diver (single tank PST E8130 with H-valve); he was also carrying a stage bottle. The three divers were exiting the castle when the victim indicated that he was out of air. One of the buddy’s (Buddy #1) gave him a full stage bottle and they continued out. Buddy # 2 subsequently had a problem and Buddy #1 stopped to help. That was the last time either buddy saw the victim. The victim reportedly swam past his stage bottle and continued to exit the cave.
They continued out of the cave expecting to find him on deco. When he was not there, Buddy #2 went for help and reported a missing diver. Buddy #1 went back into the cave to look for him.
The two recovery divers got in the water as Buddy #1 surfaced and reported that he had found him and told the recovery divers where to look. The victim was found approx. 1300 feet from the entrance.
After exiting Henley’s Castle heading outbound the victim had taken the first jump to the left (no reel deployed). He was located about 300 feet down that tunnel facing outbound completely out of gas.

Thanks Shelly,

Something is missing here that is a big question that has already been asked:

Being only cavern certified was the victim diving in the cave in violation of that park rules, as part of a course or with an instructor?

While still not outfitted properly to be diving full cave back to Henley's he looks to have equipped to be at least an H-valve. Was this in some fashion a cave course gone wrong - or a situation where he snuck in on his own?

What was thier max depth and breathing gas?


Thanks,
Gary

[CaveDivingCop]

This is a time of mourning and not speculation....that's why the title of the line is "Mourning" and marked by a black line arrow....Let's all take a moment to think about the victim who was still a person, and who has left behind a family............................................ ...............................

[bigdave]

What is the distance to Henley's Castle?

TIA,
BD

[L.Babcock]

around 1100 feet to the Jump to Henley's Castle, then roughly another 250 ft down to the depth of 180 to 190 feet , the line stops at a dead end. This cave is very silty and has a siphon.

[bigdave]

around 1100 feet to the Jump to Henley's Castle, then roughly another 250 ft down to the depth of 180 to 190 feet , the line stops at a dead end. This cave is very silty and has a siphon.

Thank you!

BD