Some questions on the basics

[Gary]

i think that facts of damage should "stay in a cave" and not on a public forum. For cyberdivers from authorities internet talks is the primary source of information on a subject.

That's been tried for years and years. It doesn't work.

If you see damage report it. If you see someone involved in cave damage report them. If you see instructors teaching poorly report them.To the agencies, to the park staff - to 911 if you have to.

There are now many cave agencies where there were once only a few and some could care less what happens to the caves and how many of their instructors and students are helping damage them.

The agencies have no way to correct what they never hear about and little reason to address the problems caused by other agencies when no one is making any complaints.