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    Quote Originally Posted by L.Babcock View Post
    Students in training must have a continuous guideline to the surface
    You obviously haven't read this carefully. They had a continuous line to exit at all time.

    The shoals are there still, the winds howl loud, the rain beats down, the waves burst strong. Some night, in the chill darkness, someone will make a mistake: The sea will show him no mercy. John T. Cunningham

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    Quote Originally Posted by runawaylobster View Post

    if we had left the reel in then the cookie would have been on the big room line after the jump, maybe it would have
    survived there .

    Or maybe you would be posting a "Reel Monster" thread on top of this one

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    I was not talking about the instructor with her class, she is a good instructor, I was talking about the post about using a cookie instead of a jump reel, if you make that jump without a reel, that is a standard violation.That is a visual jump


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    Quote Originally Posted by L.Babcock View Post
    Students in training must have a continuous guideline to the surface
    yes, so what's the problem? I think you have your geometry radar or whatever it is mixed up...

    oh, OK read before you post.. sorry.

    I don't think that the person was saying to have a reel instead of a cookie though, or am I reading it wrong.


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    Quote Originally Posted by runawaylobster View Post
    yes, so what's the problem? I think you have your geometry radar or whatever it is mixed up...

    oh, OK read before you post.. sorry.

    I don't think that the person was saying to have a reel instead of a cookie though, or am I reading it wrong.
    Thanks...I wasn't adocating using a cookie instead of a jump reel. Sorry if I muddy the water or caused this tread to get off topic.

    I was just saying that when you place a cookie to mark where you reached thirds, it may or may not necessarily be near one of your jump reels/spools. And unless another dive team came the same way you did, they may or may not have seem your jump reel(s). That's all.


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    Sorry OWSI176288, My fault for reading your post wrong, I just see to many instructors setting up visual jumps, like reel me in jumps, light jumps all without a continuous guideline. my apologies again.


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    Quote Originally Posted by OWSI176288 View Post
    I was just saying that when you place a cookie to mark where you reached thirds, it may or may not necessarily be near one of your jump reels/spools. And unless another dive team came the same way you did, they may or may not have seem your jump reel(s). That's all.
    I assumed there was a reel there because the place where the cookie was is where the jump is.

    Les, sorry to hear that your class was disrupted by the nonsense that was going on there. You made a good call.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Al View Post
    I assumed there was a reel there because the place where the cookie was is where the jump is.

    Les, sorry to hear that your class was disrupted by the nonsense that was going on there. You made a good call.
    Yes....I think I sort of muddy the water by not staying on point to the specific location (Maple Leaf) and went off talking about non-specific generalities. I tend to to do that from time to time.


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    you guys are funny ...

    but anyhow just to clarify,

    After removing the jump reel the cookie was placed on
    our incoming side of the jump where it should be and
    we went out the same way that we came in (on the gold line)
    so no, I don't do visual jumps.

    have fun .... i'll be back up there on saturday for the next
    cookie check

    LL


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    Default RE: Cookie Monster

    I am still shocked that an experienced diver would recklessly endanger an inexperienced diver who was depending on his cookie to know where to jump or turn around. A cookie is a private memo: it should concern only the person who placed it. My cookies have my name and notch code: only I know what they mean. I ignore other divers cookies: only they know what they mean.

    "I like to do dangerous things safely."


 

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