Saturday at Little River

[rlc5925]

With the greatly increased number of folks cave diving both from the US as well as folks from abroad grows an increase of folks with little experience. There were a great number of people there Saturday with 7-8 reels run to the stake. The most disturbing thing was someone used gold braid to jump from the main line to the Harper tunnel. This could be potentially dangerous to the inexperienced. I know there were at least two groups there Saturday that was there for the first time. Just thought I'd mention it.

[FW]

Personally, I think the main line should start at the stake.

[Cindy]

People have to learn someplace. Little River is about the largest and most suitable for that many lines. You really don't even need one since you can see daylight from the bottom of the turn to the surface. Don't get freaky on me guys, I am not advocating not running lines. I'm just saying you can get high in there and stay away from them. Are we all turning into a bunch of babies? Where are people supposed to learn? You all must be getting bored if all you have to complain about is too many lines in a HUGE cavern...
Dang that Menopause has me going today..
I love you guys, REALLY....

[sskasser]

.... The most disturbing thing was someone used gold braid to jump from the main line to the Harper tunnel. This could be potentially dangerous to the inexperienced. I know there were at least two groups there Saturday that was there for the first time. Just thought I'd mention it.

That is very disturbing. To those of you with more experience than me...is there any logical reason someone would be using gold braid to make a jump? I can't think of any...but...

Had I seen that, I think I would have had to follow it in, find the owner, and ask "WTH?".

Shirley

[billyf]

Explain Gold Braided Line???

Did someone have a spool of gold line that they used for a jump???

More likely it was #18 High viz yellow!

[OneBrightGator]

People have to learn someplace. Little River is about the largest and most suitable for that many lines. You really don't even need one since you can see daylight from the bottom of the turn to the surface. Don't get freaky on me guys, I am not advocating not running lines. I'm just saying you can get high in there and stay away from them. Are we all turning into a bunch of babies? Where are people supposed to learn? You all must be getting bored if all you have to complain about is too many lines in a HUGE cavern...
Dang that Menopause has me going today..
I love you guys, REALLY....

People can learn to run a reel anywhere they want to. Just because the goldline comes out to OW or there's a "guaranteed" exit from where the goldline starts doesn't mean you're forbidden to run a reel, for practice or otherwise.

[RN]

The most disturbing thing was someone used gold braid to jump from the main line to the Harper tunnel. This could be potentially dangerous to the inexperienced. I know there were at least two groups there Saturday that was there for the first time. Just thought I'd mention it.

I'd guess this is someone's well used hi viz yellow that's no longer that hi viz. I'd hope that even an inexperience team would notice the spool at the end of that line and turn back to the main line to either set their own spool or continue on the main line.

[sskasser]

Explain Gold Braided Line???

Did someone have a spool of gold line that they used for a jump???

More likely it was #18 High viz yellow!

I'd guess this is someone's well used hi viz yellow that's no longer that hi viz. I'd hope that even an inexperience team would notice the spool at the end of that line and turn back to the main line to either set their own spool or continue on the main line.

You guys are probably right...sounds logical. Whew!

People can learn to run a reel anywhere they want to. Just because the goldline comes out to OW or there's a "guaranteed" exit from where the goldline starts doesn't mean you're forbidden to run a reel, for practice or otherwise.

Amen! Well said, Ben.

[rlc5925]

OK, just to clarify. sorry I brought up the reel.s But after 22 years of cave diving and hovering over the jump while people cleared out of the way I know the difference between hi viz line and gold braid. And for others wondering, gold braid is what is used for the permanent main line in Little River. I'm not complaining, not trying to stir up anything or hurt any feelings. Just thought some folks might find some usefulness out of the post. Thanks

[Cindy]

Hi, Don't feel bad, if every post anybody ever made was perfect or accepted by everybody it would be a boring world. I am sort of in the stand tall and don't be afraid to have an opinion or take it in the chin now and then group. I think there is a saying about that, "those who never fail, do so at the risk of never succeeding because they will not have tried" or something like that.
I am curious why you think that jumping off a gold line is wrong. Where would you tie off at too jump to another line and keep a continuous line to the surface? For example, the little sidemount cave at the top of the second drop in the cave. I have always tied into the gold line. I have seen a lot of lines tied into gold lines over the years and am curious who taught you not to do that or where you got that impression? I see an article in the making here. Cindy