Little River deep area

[tomhauburn]

Anyone have any good maps of those areas? Also there appeared to be two ways ( Jumps) into that area. Which one is the old and new and what are the advantages of each? If you do not feel like a public post feel free to PM me. Its an interesting area with lots of jumps and lots of clay was my first impression.

[bernieflyer]

I've heard confusing stories about the deep sections names being reversed, aparantly the new section was discovered 1st, but the names were changed around because the way to small creek used to be the main pasageway and when they did the maps the way we know now was mapped and therefore the old was thought to be the new and the old the new......
To avoid confusion, i refer to them as the closer/shorter or the farther/longer deep sections.
And last time i went in there (jan) they were both T's, no jumps, apart from the one jump from the mainline....

[Daedalus]

The Rick Gunter Map has the best representation to figure out what that area "looks" like. I think they have some at CEE.

[Sludge]

There's one small problem with Rick's map (some may call it a large problem): at one point he put in a 90° turn that doesn't exist.

He did this to make the map fit on the paper.

[aainslie]

Huh - I always wondered about that turn!! Thanks for the info, !

I've been past the rooms but not into them. I never have a lean enough mix when I go there. Are they worth a visit?

Here's a video of Small Creek. I'm done with arguments that by posting this I'm destroying it so please don't even go there. It's very narrow and very silty, but boy is it gorgeous! IMHO this is a sidemount only passage.

http://andrewainslie.com/secret/publicsecret.wmv

Look at the silt on the way back. I'm going to claim that's mainly percolation. Seriously, the viz drops fast in this section.

[Daedalus]

Huh - I always wondered about that turn!! Thanks for the info, !

I've been past the rooms but not into them. I never have a lean enough mix when I go there. Are they worth a visit?

Here's a video of Small Creek. I'm done with arguments that by posting this I'm destroying it so please don't even go there. It's very narrow and very silty, but boy is it gorgeous! IMHO this is a sidemount only passage.

http://andrewainslie.com/secret/publicsecret.wmv

Look at the silt on the way back. I'm going to claim that's mainly percolation. Seriously, the viz drops fast in this section.

Cool video. I did my first foray into the deep section a few weeks ago since I had some helium left over. I wouldn't do it on Nitrox I think a little helium goes a long way in there.

[MrSpooley]

Huh - I always wondered about that turn!! Thanks for the info, !

I've been past the rooms but not into them. I never have a lean enough mix when I go there. Are they worth a visit?

Here's a video of Small Creek. I'm done with arguments that by posting this I'm destroying it so please don't even go there. It's very narrow and very silty, but boy is it gorgeous! IMHO this is a sidemount only passage.

http://andrewainslie.com/secret/publicsecret.wmv

Look at the silt on the way back. I'm going to claim that's mainly percolation. Seriously, the viz drops fast in this section.

Awesome. Another Hero-dive video. Thanks for sharing.

[ARY]

It's very narrow and very silty, but boy is it gorgeous! IMHO this is a sidemount only passage.
http://andrewainslie.com/secret/publicsecret.wmv

I recognize 1/3 of the route. We did left turn on the T (the one where you picked up your clothe pin) into the deep section rather than into Small Creek (to the right). From what i see the SC tunnel is smaller than it is before the T. We were backmount and stirred up some silt during the exit. Does tunnel ever gets bigger? Did you use 2 stages (one to drive one to extend swimming) or just your sm tanks after you dropped SS on mainline? Another question if you don't mind. There is another T before it splits into Small Creek: large arrow points to the way you (and we did too) came in. What about the alternative, it is also pointed into the same general direction but looks low. Does it lead out to the mainline in Dome Room?

[tomhauburn]

I've heard confusing stories about the deep sections names being reversed, aparantly the new section was discovered 1st, but the names were changed around because the way to small creek used to be the main pasageway and when they did the maps the way we know now was mapped and therefore the old was thought to be the new and the old the new......
To avoid confusion, i refer to them as the closer/shorter or the farther/longer deep sections.
And last time i went in there (jan) they were both T's, no jumps, apart from the one jump from the mainline....

Bernie
Sorry about saying jumps. They were clearly T's, I guess I was in too much of a hurry when I posted the message. Thanks for the feedback. I plan on returning soon in any case. Lot of places to visit.
Tom

[tomhauburn]

Gary thanks for the info. I need to get a map and look carefully as I explore the area. There is a lot to see from the little bit we looked at on our first trip in there and bring plenty of line markers.

Andrew thanks for posting you video. Interesting sidemount tunnels you shot. I noticed you were wearing a VR3? Is the video an older one?

I appreciate everyone input!

Tom