"Dirty Jobs" in a cave.

[fitnessdiver]

I love to see Bear come up with new ways to use his pee.

That's the part I find hilarious too!

[jkola]

I saw most of the program last night and really enjoyed watching it. I am not a dry caver, and appreciate how much less effort is required to cave dive vs. dry caving. I know that ANY impact is detrimental to the cave, but it would seem to me that cave divers are much less destructive to the environment, than the research that the show depicted.
I cringe when I see hand prints, tank scuffs, and vandalism, (and am not condoning such) but watching them last night dig through clay banks, tie off ropes, climbing over rocks, etc, I realized that our community, as a whole, does a VERY good job of conservation of the cave environment, and feel that the way we properly conduct cave diving has much less impact on the cave.
I don't post this to condemn dry cavers impacts, without their explorations and research, cave diving would be impossible and our understanding of caves etc. much less complete.

The bad examples by a few of our community, are glaring reminders that we can do better so that we can all enjoy the caves for a long time.

[kiltdiver]

Angie,I too enjoy survivorman,mainly to laugh at his idiosity.Being a survival expert myself that boy may go a week but after that he would starve because he cant make traps and snares.His shelter building skills are also non existent.Now my boy Bear Grills has not only more skill but way bigger kohoonas.I do not agree with squeezing elephant turds in your mouth for water,or eating many of the items he does though,but it makes for great entertainment.

i agree. eating live bugs, snakes, and frogs is a little much. he does however show a way to actually survive in the wild in an actual survival situation. he normally only has his canteen(full of pee) a knife, a flint and his shoe laces, with occassionally parachute cord. that guy from survivorman is a joke. having stuff people take for a vacation camping for a week. bear has the bare minimum of what people that would actually have that are lost in that area. just goes to show how far a canteen of pee and shoe laces will go.

[curtschu]

I don't watch every show but I think Survivorman takes a different look. He puts himself in a situation that might really happen IE: broken down on a snow bound mountain road and shows how you can use the things at your disposal to survive. Grills does more of a "this is the way the big boys do it" show. Just my take on the two.

I caught the Dirty Jobs show. Remember that cave was a sewer at one time and they were showing how the Bio guys has now discovered unique bugs and beasties in the Poo.

C

[curtschu]

I lost all respect for Survivorman when there was an episode where he had to survive in some snowy environment. He was given a team of sled dogs, a gun(w/ammo), and he eventually found a cabin to stay in over his week.

Some people pay for that sort of experience and call it a vacation.

But you must not have watched the show.. He dumps and bunch of gear then lets the dogs go, to simulate what would happen if you lost your team while out dogsleding which I guess happens from time to time. Me, I get cold just looing at it. Putting on my drysuit last weekend was cold enough for me.

[SuPrBuGmAn]

I watched it, likely just didn't put much of it to memory. I do know that he still had a cabin and the gun by the end of the show. The cabin was better than alot of the hunting "camps" you'll find around here as well - LOL.

Sure does look cold, my vacations don't put me in snow.

My wetsuit was frigid last weekend in N.FL.

[curtschu]

The point I made the final desision to go dry was when I tried to put on a wetsuit and had to soak it in the spring to thaw it out.

[sskasser]

The point I made the final desision to go dry was when I tried to put on a wetsuit and had to soak it in the spring to thaw it out.

LOL, I had to stand in front of the heater last weekend to thaw my wetsuit zipper so I could get OUT of it.

[Mike Edmonston]

LOL, I had to stand in front of the heater last weekend to thaw my wetsuit zipper so I could get OUT of it.

Funny... I remember my Ex-wife having to do that on a regular basis... Even in the summer...

[sskasser]

Funny... I remember my Ex-wife having to do that on a regular basis... Even in the summer...

Geez Mike, what are you implying?