One dive or two?

[Line Squirrel]

A discussion around the fire pit the other evening made me curious.

I know instructors count this as two dives, but after training, do you continue to count [as an example] from Orange Grove to Challenge and back as one dive or two?

My self imposed rule is, unless I take tanks off it's one dive for me.

[BobK]

I generally count it as one dive. Largely because, with my air consumption, I seldom make it

[defunct]

what is this "log" that you speak of for dives?

[MORGAN]

what is this "log" that you speak of for dives?

Maybe it is the "deco log" in the Ear!

Mike

[WJH]

I count it as one. I made the dive with a buddy (not my usual buddy!) who surfaced for 5 minutes to count it as 2 dives -- PADI style. I counted it as one dive that day as well, just added up the time from the 2 dives logged by my computer and put them together as one dive in my written log.

WJH

[FW]

This is a really hard call, especially the example you give. Since there is little chance to get out of the water at Challange, or Pothole, I would make them one dive. Olsen is a little different, you can surface there, and talk awhile, or even get out of the water (not allowed by, PSSP of course).

Most of my "traverses" you can get out of the water, but not out of the cave, and I do take off my gear.

[SuPrBuGmAn]

For my log book...

It would depend on the SI, if its significant, probably two. By significant, I'd mean more than just surfacing to discuss an issue and take a look to see... whatever it is we see.

If I don't surface at all... one.

[Line Squirrel]

This is a really hard call, especially the example you give. Since there is little chance to get out of the water at Challenge, or Pothole, I would make them one dive. Olsen is a little different, you can surface there, and talk awhile, or even get out of the water (not allowed by, PSSP of course).

Not sure why I picked OG to Challenge [and back] as an example, probably because I had just done that dive the day before and it was fresh in my mind.

Pothole would have never occurred to me, mainly because I have always considered it an emergency egress, although I know some do surface there. I started to surface one time just to take a peek but the silt & loose "stuff" raining down from my exhaust bubbles, I decided it was better not to and dropped back down.

P1 to Olson would have been a better example since so many instructors do this with their students.

[ajimmythekid]

What ever the puter says

[Sludge]

If your instructor calls a dive from Peacock 1 to Olson and back two dives, you have a mighty piss-poor instructor.

Edit: Let me clarify this. I'm not talking about what you do after certification. I'm talking about an instructor that would consider this as two of the four mandatory dives for a given certification level.