Cow Damage Reward now at $1900.00

[Daedalus]

I can't understand why the damage has not already been repaired.

FWIW: I once replaced a shark tooth in a dry cave ceiling for the state. It's not a big deal.

Surely the NACD or NSS/CDS has pursued this line? But perhaps this has been done already?

Apparently our "leaders" have not planned ahead for this obvious problem. It will happen again.


Richard
Tallahassee

I think the problem is how to perform a repair without having it be worse than the damage. If we slice away a layer of the clay to remove the damage and reveal the untouched clay behind it, aren't we doing just as much if not more damage? What do we do if there is damage again? Slice again? What do we do with the "sheet" of clay we removed? Leave it in place?

I think this is an extremely delicate operation and unfortunately, the damage is not going anywhere, so definitely take the time to do it in the best manner possible.

[aainslie]

The damage is really deep. A bad attempt could just make it worse.

Remember "the cat in the hat comes back"? it'd be easy to exacerbate the damage.

[Kelly Jessop]

I think the problem is how to perform a repair without having it be worse than the damage. If we slice away a layer of the clay to remove the damage and reveal the untouched clay behind it, aren't we doing just as much if not more damage? What do we do if there is damage again? Slice again? What do we do with the "sheet" of clay we removed? Leave it in place?

I think this is an extremely delicate operation and unfortunately, the damage is not going anywhere, so definitely take the time to do it in the best manner possible.

I have spoken to some of the best in cave restoration and this damage presents a unique dilemma. To slice a layer away is an option that I would like to test on something like playdo immersed in water first. But the big problem is how to have your body perfectly still at the level you need to work,and not cause more damage. In that area you'll have flow pushing you,and everytime you move against an object,there will a force exerted in the opposite direction.

[OFG-1]

...everytime you move against an object,there will a force exerted in the opposite direction.

It's that damn Newton fellow yet again. God I hate him. I really hate him for that whole gravity thing when I get on the scales in the morning. What a bastard.

[DeWayne]

It's that damn Newton fellow yet again. God I hate him. I really hate him for that whole gravity thing when I get on the scales in the morning. What a bastard.

I would have blamed it on Bernouli (Sarah, not John mind you) rather than Newton

[Sludge]

I would have blamed it on Bernouli (Sarah, not John mind you) rather than Newton

I don't know, Doc. Sounds like Newton's Third Law of Motion to me!

[aainslie]

Yeah, but Bernoulli is probably what will get you in that flow near that corner.

[Ken Hill]

As published by the Kentucky F&W .... hopefully our reward will bring someone forward with a few pieces of additional information. It seems the concept of pooled rewards have a positive impact on these investigations as there is a greater awareness generated from different levels and perspectives. /Ken


Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2007 6:27 pm Post subject: $4,700 Reward For Bat Killers

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Kentucky Department of Fish & Wildlife Resources News Release

Reward offered for information leading to conviction in killing of rare bats

December 3, 2007 Contact: Traci Hemberger

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE 1-800-852-0942, ext. 373

Frankfort, Ky. – A $4,700 reward is being offered for information leading to the arrest and conviction of the person or persons responsible for killing more than 100 federally endangered Indiana bats at a state park in late October.

A number of wildlife conservation organizations, cavers, environmental consultants and others have pooled their money to offer the reward. Vandals smashed the bats with rocks and knocked several into a stream to drown on two occasions while the animals were in a hibernating cluster at Carter Caves State Resort Park near Olive Hill. .

Investigators believe the first incident occurred Oct. 21-24. Officials discovered the second incident Oct. 27, and believe the bat killings may have occurred the previous night.

Traci Hemberger, endangered species biologist for the Kentucky Department of Fish and Wildlife Resources, noted that a $500 reward offered in a similar 1987 case led to the convictions of four men. "We're hoping that this reward will lead to a breakthrough in the Carter Caves case," she said.