Mr. "DIC" was at Ginnie

[aainslie]

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I've traveled the world, and in a lot of other countries, the standards of behavior are *much* different than we have here in the US of A. Many rural folks think it's entirely acceptable to throw their trash where ever. Eat a candy bar, finish it, drop the wrapper. It horrifies me, but that's the way many people operate.

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Sounds ever so slightly xenophobic. Rural people..... Maybe Xenophobic is not the right word......

Actually squirrell girl is exactly right, just not the way she thought.

The last time I was at Dive Outpost, I collected 3 trash bags of trash between the Luraville Store and Dive Outpost, in about 10 minutes.

Rural people do indeed seem to make trash. Only problem is, Squirrel Girl, that good ol' US of A rural people are just as bad.

(Be careful before throwing around BS conjecture like this. Remember how everyone thought the McVie bombing was a damn furnur......)

[crawford]

If what people post are to be believed, and what is being conjectured is true.... there's a good chance that the culprit(s) is(are) from another country.

I've traveled the world, and in a lot of other countries, the standards of behavior are *much* different than we have here in the US of A. Many rural folks think it's entirely acceptable to throw their trash where ever. Eat a candy bar, finish it, drop the wrapper. It horrifies me, but that's the way many people operate.

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Of course, you have to be totally firm that grafitti is completely unacceptable, and in the US, prosecutable in some cases.

I can't believe someone who has completed training (and if they dove Peacock and Ginnie it's more than likely they have a card) that they'd be that ignorant of cave conservation.

[aainslie]

If what people post are to be believed, and what is being conjectured is true.... there's a good chance that the culprit(s) is(are) from another country.

I've traveled the world, and in a lot of other countries, the standards of behavior are *much* different than we have here in the US of A. Many rural folks think it's entirely acceptable to throw their trash where ever. Eat a candy bar, finish it, drop the wrapper. It horrifies me, but that's the way many people operate.

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Of course, you have to be totally firm that grafitti is completely unacceptable, and in the US, prosecutable in some cases.

This is great.

Mike, could you point this post out to Cathy? I'm sure she'll get a kick out of it since so many of these american hating types stay wth her.

Guys.... Is there a country you hate? And if so, do you spend your holidays vacationing in it?

I thought not.

Paranoia's such a wonderful thing to watch.

(Raphael - how do you feel as the furnur that posted this originally?)

[Cave Ranger]

Foreign, domestic, Martian.....it makes no difference. Scum is scum and anyone who would do what I saw is beneath contempt.
By the way..it wasn't just initials. This sub-human also gouged into the formation with his grubby little mitts.
Just like when I was whitewater rafting up in the mountains and saw all this graffiti spray painted on rocks and trees. These people who do this kind of stuff are vermin among us and I'm calling them out. They need to be exposed and embarrassed. They need to be shamed, shunned, and set straight on some things!!
By the way.....you people who leave cigarette butts and condom cathaters laying around should be ashamed of yourselves also. There were quite a few laying around the picnic tables at Cow.
That's just how I feel about it. I'll make no apologies. There is NO EXCUSE!! If the shoe fits you'll wear it. You know who you are!
Other than that I don't feel too strongly about it.

[Daedalus]

This whole vandalism fiasco has brought out some of the most negative aspects of our little community. Everyone is pointing fingers, injecting their own agendas/politics/grudges, and generally ensuring the only outcome is going to be one everyone is unhappy with.

[MengTze]

I am not, I am just keeping it real

[oldguy]

Do I see a noose hanging from the live oak trees in the near future ??

[crawford]

Do I see a noose hanging from the live oak trees in the near future ??

I hope not. If this is dealt with in any way but through legal means, we're worse than the graffiti guys. I do believe it will be near impossible to actually prove who did this.

If graffiti in english turned up in a french cave, they should absolutely start thinking it's someone from out of the country. If it says "Go Steelers", they should absolutely start looking for Americans who have recently dove in the area, etc. Doesn't mean you go and do something small minded or illegal. Just evaluating the facts.

[MengTze]

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If graffiti in english turned up in a french cave, they should absolutely start thinking it's someone from out of the country. If it says "Go Steelers", they should absolutely start looking for Americans who have recently dove in the area, etc. Doesn't mean you go and do something small minded or illegal. Just evaluating the facts.

You have a point there.... what does DIC mean and in what language?

[oldguy]

Crawford, EASE UP. Are all you folks in Tennessee knee-jerk? I was just having some fun here. But now, in your all-knowing wisdom, I am small minded and participate in illegal activities. It is sad that people purposely damage caves or any other natural formations but stay focused on the bad guys here.