Say what you want about GUE and DIR, but they have their "ducks in a row" .... I lost my nerve to continue cave diving ... I LOVE hearing what is going on in the cave diving world, but the risks out weighed the results for me ... I dove hard and fast for a couple of years (1996 - 1998) ... Seen a lot of cave in that sort period of time ... Maybe, that was my downfall ... Too much cave in a short period of time ... Anyway, it seems that George Irvine is out of the picture (and his harsh personality) ... So, is DIR and GUE getting their "fair shake"??? ... It seems to me that they have done a lot for safety and exploration in the sport ... Just my 1 1/2 cents

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