cow springs waiver

[ltb7733]

i am looking over the cow springs waiver, and one of the rules is to dive with an Active NSS-CDS INSTRUCTOR. is this really enforced? i have dove cow many time without this stipulation. i plan to be there next week and this is new to me. Its just going to be a team of 2, both with hundreds of full cave level dives. thanks for any input.

[Diverlee]

I think as long as both of you are members of CDS you can dive there without an instructor


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[Diverlee]

agree that I am FULL CAVE DIVER (for both Upstream and Downstream sides), certified by a recognized training agency with either an Abe Davis Award and/or 100 logged cave dives, OR

I will be guided by an Active NSS-CDS Instructor AND

OR is the magic word here


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[ltb7733]

ahhh.....OR.... thank you....

[K3rnalPanic]

The NSSCDS isnt a prosecuting agency, go dive bro, no one cares.

[Dsix36]

The NSSCDS isnt a prosecuting agency, go dive bro, no one cares.

Not following the rules is a good way to get a system shut down to divers. Then a lot of people will care and the offender will be very unpopular. Just ask Dan Wright about it.

[MORGAN]

Not following the rules is a good way to get a system shut down to divers. Then a lot of people will care and the offender will be very unpopular. Just ask Dan Wright about it.

Yup.

[rddvet]

The NSSCDS isnt a prosecuting agency, go dive bro, no one cares.

Thats a completely stupid statement and if thats how you really feel, then please dont dive any cave sites in florida because you?re going to be the guy that ruins it for everyone else.

People do care because we wouldnt have access to cow if the cds didnt regulate it. I think the thing the cds does the best by far is conservation and management of critical cave sites. Dont go fuc?ng it up for everyone else.

Also fu? dan wright.


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[Diverlee]

Totally agree
Only takes a few minutes to fill out the form and get a reply
We do not need bad people here ruining things for every one

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[Six Feet Under]

The NSSCDS isnt a prosecuting agency, go dive bro, no one cares.

Or just follow the rules, it's not like they're prohibitively difficult or intrusive:

The upstream entrance to Cow Springs has a major restriction requiring moderate body and equipment manipulation to pass through a roughly vertical to horizontal transition at about 40 ft of depth.
The current flow is typically quite high, requiring a pull rope to be permanently installed in the front section of the cave. Visibility is typically very good, with depths in the 90-110 ft range. The upstream section is quite delicate and is considered an advanced cave dive. Divers MUST ensure
their buoyancy control is excellent before entering this system. It contains spectacular clay banks and delicate goethite formations throughout that are easily damaged and challenging high flow and additional restrictions beyond the entrance.

The following rules apply to the upstream section of Cow Springs:
1. Divers shall be a member of the NSS-CDS or CDS.
2. Divers shall be trained and certified as Cave Divers or equivalent certification.
3. Divers shall possess DAN diving accident insurance or equivalent.
4. Divers shall sign an NSS-CDS liability waiver on the day of diving.
5. DPV use is prohibited.
6. Only advanced sidemount training may be conducted by NSS-CDS Instructors for students meeting all other requirements. All other training is prohibited in the upstream section.

The Downstream section of Cow Springs is shallow, in the 30 ft range, and fairly wide open with
roughly 450 ft of penetration possible with no significant difficult areas.
The following rules apply to the downstream section of Cow Springs:
1. Divers shall be a member of the NSS-CDS or CDS.
2. Divers shall be trained and certified at Cavern Diver or equivalent certification.
3. Divers shall possess DAN diving accident insurance or equivalent.
4. Divers shall sign an NSS-CDS liability waiver on the day of diving.
5. DPV use is prohibited.
6. All levels of Cavern and Cave Diver training may be conducted by NSS-CDS Instructors for
students meeting all other requirements.