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    Being a D I Y guy I have often wondered about making a rip cord from an old Zeagle weight system that could be adapted to release the bungee if one of these hypothetical eventualities were to happen. I never tried it because it seemed like over engineering a solution to a problem that you would rarely run into. I would think that the amount of air a compromised un-bungeed wing could hold (dependant on the location and size of the hole) would easily be overcome by the buoyancy my dry suit could provide.

    Anybody else’s thoughts on a ditchable bungee?

    ~G


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    Quote Originally Posted by Gibby

    Anybody else’s thoughts on a ditchable bungee?

    ~G
    It'd be better to create ditchable rig.

    Joe


    Quote Originally Posted by Richard Pyle
    "After my first 10 hours on a rebreather, I was a real expert. Another 40 hours of dive time later, I considered myself a novice. When I had completed about 100 hours of rebreather diving, I realized I was only just a beginner."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry
    The DR wings will work well with or without the gusset control cord (bungee). The cord is designed to control excess material and lower the drag when the wing is used with a single tank.

    Someone above mentioned it messed with his trim; if it can affect it negatively, do think it might be turned around and used to positively affect trim issues? It takes a little thought though; I use it that way on the Rec wing I sidemount.

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    Rec wing here too-It can, i have tried it.

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    If you are diving a wreck with razor-sharp metal, carry a lift bag. My God, some of you people need to be careful!! My Dual Tec Rec Dive Rite have bungees, tucked between the backplate and the wings. Nice design, easy to control. I too believe they are there for a reason, as an integral part of a particular wings' function. But each to their own...

    Marcopolo

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    Quote Originally Posted by ocalamm
    If you are diving a wreck with razor-sharp metal, carry a lift bag. My God, some of you people need to be careful!!
    Umm, yea...I dive a dry suit in the Great lakes (go figure) and yea, I can make a controlled ascent and hold a 10 ft stop using just that. This would be my first option before a lift bag, I carry two lift bags (while wreck diving), bungeed to the bottom of my backplate. We practiced time and time again deploying them in class and outside of class.

    My comment was strictly with regard to wings "can" get a hole in them, not my contingency plan.

    It's bad luck to be superstitious.

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    Just a little input into wing design and great lake wreck diving. I have a set of DeepOutdoors 85 pound wings with an internal bungee. (their the only yellow ones I've seen) I haven't had any problems using them in caves or great lakes wrecks (like Mike) for the last 5 years. I can change the tension internelly on them based on the cylinder size. I used double 80's in the great lakes due to the often 4-6 foot seas and the weight of double 95's. Much easier getting on a rocking boat with 80's.

    As to redundancy on lift. I used a DUI CF200 dry suit as my primary source of bouyancy, and my wings as surface flotation, or back-up. I've never seen a CF200 suit torn or either rebar or sharp metal on wrecks. My drygloves were a different story though. Zebra Muscles were a #####! I also carried a 50 pound lift bag as well. I've been blown off more than one wreck, and needed an accent platform.

    Anyway, if you want a closer look at the DeepOutdoors wings, just look for my Yellow set, and ask me...... Ken.


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    Quote Originally Posted by DogDiver
    I also carried a 50 pound lift bag as well. I've been blown off more than one wreck, and needed an accent platform.
    Yep, this is "my" PRIMARY reason for carrying a lift bags, but as I have said, I carry two (and two reels). I have fouled a bag/reel more than once at depth, the reel damn near starts smokin' when you let them go from 150'

    Just for the record, my cold water/wreck wings are not bungeed, I like the Halcyon wings, I use this with dbl PST LP95's and the wing is my primary source for bouyancy, drysuit secondary.

    It's bad luck to be superstitious.

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    IMHO all of the phobias about bungies are a bunch of hog wash. I have never seen a single legitimate report of a bungie being a contributing factor to a diving accident. (I guess it is possible that it has happened, but I certainly have never read a reliable report of it!)

    I have dived OMS with bungies, DR Wreck with Bungies and Golem Gear without bungies, in both cave and open water. Currently, I am using the Golem Gear wing, but I would be just as happy and comfortable to dive any of the 3.

    Just my .02

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    Randy



 

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