Ginnie?

[OFG-1]

No. I?m actually bent out of shape at peoples willingness to just hand over their freedom for some perceived safety and security, no questions asked. And then ridicule others because they do not agree..

You know, most of you are not old enough to remember polio. The Salk vaccine was not available in the US before the mid 50's, and as such, there were numerous students in our schools with active polio. We were told to socially distance ourselves from them, but they were in the classrooms, cafeterias, gyms. Then the government took away their freedom to infect others by mandating vaccines. The local health departments came into the schools and gave us vaccines for polio, TB, rubella. Most school districts today will not let your precious snowflake into school without vaccines.

Today, in parts of the world, polio is making a comeback, mainly because of all the bullsquirt that is being passed around about vaccines. Vaccination teams are being attacked and killed.

You do not have any implied freedom to damage the health of others. You are not free to beat people with a big stick, even the ones that need it. You are not free to go into a theater and start screaming fire. You have people that are HIV positive in jail for infecting others without their consent. You are not free to take your 2nd amendment toy and start blazing away in a subdivision.

The people going to these churches are no different than the spring break kids. If they would go to wherever and then go home, fine. But they don't. They travel around, go to stores, dig through the grapes, interact with you and me without our consent.

Now I would not ridicule anyone for their personal choice, except perhaps you guys with mullets. But, this isn't a personal choice. You are choosing to perhaps impact others that come behind you at the ATM, grocery store, gas station, liquor store. Or, if you get infected, by default, you are choosing to impact first responders, doctors, nurses, to use equipment when there are known shortages.

I live in a county with about 175k people, we have 44 reported cases. 2 deaths, so far. I would like to think we could keep the numbers that low, but we probably won't. But that doesn't mean that I get to go out and poke the virus monkey, and then spread it everywhere.

[CaveSloth]

I am 100% in favor of science and think the pastor should be in jail but I am trying to see the other side in this discussion...

It is certainly possible that all cave diving would be forbidden by a government that is hell bent on keeping people safe.

[Sludge]

General rule, people are stupid.

Ding. Ding. Ding.

[gschaut]

As of 18 minutes ago, the entire state of Florida is under a Stay At Home Order. I started a new thread.

[diveconjeff]

As of 18 minutes ago, the entire state of Florida is under a Stay At Home Order. I started a new thread.

Yes, he issued the order, but I believe the it actually goes into effect at mid-night tonight...

[rddvet]

It'll be interesting to see if Ginnie closes since recreation is allowed. I'm sure they're going to use the loophole of being a recreation facility. Maybe they'll smarten up and limit the number of campers and day use people.

[zdiver]

Camping is closed as of today.


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[rddvet]

Camping is closed as of today.


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Thats good news


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[rddvet]

Looks like theyre completely closed per the website.


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[DogDiver]

Looks like we will have to go in by boat. With the river dropping Telford and Cow may be diveable soon.


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