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    I agree with Nitrogenius concerning rule #5. If you want to use CCR as a tool for a "big" dive you should be proficient on it and have the constant training (e.g. by using it on a regular base).
    If you dont trust yourself or your CCR for a small/ average dive, how do you justify to trust your life on it on a big dive?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Rechno View Post
    I agree with Nitrogenius concerning rule #5. If you want to use CCR as a tool for a "big" dive you should be proficient on it and have the constant training (e.g. by using it on a regular base).
    If you dont trust yourself or your CCR for a small/ average dive, how do you justify to trust your life on it on a big dive?
    Imo, the angle here is that you need to be doing dives big enough to require a rebreather on a regular basis. A “big dive” once a year with a bunch of rebreather dives in peacock in between doesn’t really cut it.

    But mostly, I think the rule is really about people who just want to dive a rebreather because it’s neat, not because it’s needed.


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    Quote Originally Posted by PfcAJ View Post
    But mostly, I think the rule is really about people who just want to dive a rebreather because it?s neat, not because it?s needed.
    Not just neat, but neat-o.


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    Quote Originally Posted by PfcAJ View Post
    But mostly, I think the rule is really about people who just want to dive a rebreather because it’s neat, not because it’s needed.
    This.

    I wonder how many rebreather divers will ever do a single dive that requires a breather. I think these days, most people dive their ccr just for the hell of it.

    I actually think all of the DIR rules make sense. The only thing I ever disagreed with is that not being DIR was automatically defined as unsafe/stroke.


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    Quote Originally Posted by bent View Post
    I actually think all of the DIR rules make sense. The only thing I ever disagreed with is that not being DIR was automatically defined as unsafe/stroke.
    I remember those days and the way certain zealots delivered the message actually delayed me from becoming a GUE diver by about 10-15 years. Granted I'm a nobody GUE diver in Texas but the circles I interact with don't discriminate at all. If anything I've gotten more harassment from other non-GUE divers for being a GUE diver. It'll take decades for all the sins to go away I suppose.

    Personally I'd love to own a CCR and do deeper diving but alas I have a 16 yo and 14 yo that need me to be alive and paying for college so maybe the technology will improve in another 10 years.


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    I don't *need* to cave dive, I just do it because I want to and enjoy it. Some people don't *need* a CCR, they just dive one because they want to and enjoy it. Some people don't need to eat ice cream and cookies for breakfast, they just do it because they want to and enjoy it. Adulting at its finest!

    I expected this thread to go off the tracks, and yet here y'all are, totally nailing this "being cool and having a nice discussion like grownups" stuff! Cookies and ice cream for everyone!


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    I guess I am lucky in that I don't give a toss what anyone thinks. I dive because I like it. I dive a.. here it comes, my own homemade rebreather because I want to. I even dive it in a small muddy quarry. But I also believe there is no such think as a simple rebreather dive so there I am covered in the technical need. Stroke, well in some's eyes for sure. I can remember the first time I did a cave dive in a rebreather and there was a group of WKPP divers who stuck around hoping for a rescue or recovery. But then at the time, no one did rebreathers in caves. Now if it's not side mount, it's rebreathers. Go figure!

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    Quote Originally Posted by bletso View Post
    I guess I am lucky in that I don't give a toss what anyone thinks. I dive because I like it. I dive a.. here it comes, my own homemade rebreather because I want to. I even dive it in a small muddy quarry. But I also believe there is no such think as a simple rebreather dive so there I am covered in the technical need. Stroke, well in some's eyes for sure. I can remember the first time I did a cave dive in a rebreather and there was a group of WKPP divers who stuck around hoping for a rescue or recovery. But then at the time, no one did rebreathers in caves. Now if it's not side mount, it's rebreathers. Go figure!
    which wkpp divers waited around hoping you died? absurd


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    Quote Originally Posted by LiteHedded View Post
    which wkpp divers waited around hoping you died? absurd
    I was there, I saw them:


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    Quote Originally Posted by LiteHedded View Post
    which wkpp divers waited around hoping you died? absurd
    You know the ones. They had red drysuits, OC doubles, truck with a topper. Can’t miss em.



 

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