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    So, why don't we consider standardizing how jumps are marked?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Dominick Gheesling View Post
    So, why don't we consider standardizing how jumps are marked?

    It is hard to get a consensus. Another problem is there are divers that don't think some jumps should even be marked.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FW View Post
    It is hard to get a consensus. Another problem is there are divers that don't think some jumps should even be marked.
    Ya, dove peacock extensively the last two weeks. I was amazed at how many of the jumps that have been marked for the 20 years I have been diving have been removed.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Dominick Gheesling View Post
    So, why don't we consider standardizing how jumps are marked?

    Is not that in the cave diving manual?
    Now it seems many cave divers want to make their own rules and ignore the standardized rules. Just my opinion and what I have noticed. Newish cave divers that will quit in a few years think they know better then the older long term divers.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Diverlee View Post
    Is not that in the cave diving manual?
    Now it seems many cave divers want to make their own rules and ignore the standardized rules. Just my opinion and what I have noticed. Newish cave divers that will quit in a few years think they know better then the older long term divers.
    Well said.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Diverlee View Post
    Is not that in the cave diving manual?
    Now it seems many cave divers want to make their own rules and ignore the standardized rules. Just my opinion and what I have noticed. Newish cave divers that will quit in a few years think they know better then the older long term divers.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Diverlee View Post
    Is not that in the cave diving manual?
    What manual?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Dominick Gheesling View Post
    So, why don't we consider standardizing how jumps are marked?




    We did. Nobody told you?


    Out of curiosity, what's the big issue? I think jumps in florida as a whole are either pretty clear or intentionally hidden. You go to Mexico or France and you really start to see some funky stuff.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Dominick Gheesling View Post
    So, why don't we consider standardizing how jumps are marked?

    Quote Originally Posted by Diverlee View Post
    Is not that in the cave diving manual?
    Now it seems many cave divers want to make their own rules and ignore the standardized rules. Just my opinion and what I have noticed. Newish cave divers that will quit in a few years think they know better then the older long term divers.
    Quote Originally Posted by bent View Post
    What manual?
    I suspect she is talking about the NSS-CDS cavediving manual.

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    Thanks Forrest.

    I think one of the issues with this is that there are dozens of agencies certifying cave divers these days. I can think of at least 10 agencies in Europe nobody's ever heard of and they all pumping out instructors as well as divers... and some of them are also traveling to FL and Mx. ETDO, SUB, VDHT, ISE, Protec, atec, IDA... all you need is a card printer, a couple of buddys (ITs and ICs), a website and you're good to go.



 

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