Silent Submerge/Stage Stolen at Little River

[allen]

If you get a video of the theft and a tag number, you don't need private vengeance. The local police can make an arrest and the local D.A. can prosecute. Almost any piece of dive is costly enough to make the theft a felony, which costs the perpetrator his civil rights. If it's a second offense, there's probably prison time as well.

[Genesis]

Son of a......

SCOOTER thefts? Now that's personal. Steal my scooter, you better hope the cops find you first.....

One suggestion - the manufacturers should etch, engrave, or otherwise mark in some indelible way on EXPENSIVE and not easily-seen parts (e.g. the back of the motor, etc) a serial number.

Sooner or later its going to end up somewhere getting fixed or someone's going to take it apart. If Rodney, Ben and the other guys who make these all started demanding serial numbers to get parts......

[Gary]

If you get a video of the theft and a tag number, you don't need private vengeance. The local police can make an arrest and the local D.A. can prosecute. Almost any piece of dive is costly enough to make the theft a felony, which costs the perpetrator his civil rights. If it's a second offense, there's probably prison time as well.

I thought that once (against all previous experience). After being run off the road and attacked by 8 thugs from a truck who smashed my car window and attacked me and a friend of mine with a claw hammer and (calling the police imediately to file a report) having the cops ignore the situation and refuse to follow up on it or even trace the vehicle licence place to find the offenders and then having the sheriff's department tell us we couldn't even make a police report unless we had the offender's date of birth and social security number (we we actually traced down via the licence ourselves) only to be further ignored by the police - even when we were able to verify that the guy still lived at the listed address (contrary to the police report on the investigation).

Buy a GUN shoot to KILL throw the body in the RIVER and get your own stuff back. Don't worry the cops are way to busy to look into what happened to the skum who stole your scooter. Useless sacks of ####.


As far as the 2nd offense theory goes it turns out this "gang" was already well known for breaking into vehicles and ripping off car radios - but didn't inspirre the cops to any effect of law enforcement past filing a report.

[Genesis]

Rig a "bait" scooter with as much dynamite as will fit in it (that ought to be quite a bit!) and a motion sensor + timer.

Sufficient time for a "false trip" to get in there and disable it. Also enough time for the thief to get clear of the dive site (we wouldn't want to cave in the hole, you know) before it goes up.

Scratch one thief.

[amphipod06]

Rig a "bait" scooter with as much dynamite as will fit in it (that ought to be quite a bit!) and a motion sensor + timer.

Sufficient time for a "false trip" to get in there and disable it. Also enough time for the thief to get clear of the dive site (we wouldn't want to cave in the hole, you know) before it goes up.

Scratch one thief.

A short timer would work wonders on the get away car and driver....

I hope this crap ends soon. It'd be interesting to set the sting and then catch them with hot hands indeed...

It is a small comunity, anyone buying this type diving gear (scooter and stages) from E-Bay or local pawn shops should be suspicious of its provenience...

Dive safe,

Celia

[Genesis]

The problem with scooters is that as far as I know there are no serial numbers. Thus, there's no way for a buyer to find out if a unit is stolen, nor is there any way for a manufacturer to assist in tracking a stolen piece.

This is a MAJOR problem; these things are expensive enough that IMHO divers should DEMAND serialization. I know nobody has really cared because of the smallness of the community and such up until now, but we're now seeing the problem that arises from this lack of attention to "normal" commercial protocol.....

[John L.]

If you get a video of the theft and a tag number, you don't need private vengeance. The local police can make an arrest and the local D.A. can prosecute. Almost any piece of dive is costly enough to make the theft a felony, which costs the perpetrator his civil rights. If it's a second offense, there's probably prison time as well.

I thought that once (against all previous experience). After being run off the road and attacked by 8 thugs from a truck who smashed my car window and attacked me and a friend of mine with a claw hammer and (calling the police imediately to file a report) having the cops ignore the situation and refuse to follow up on it or even trace the vehicle licence place to find the offenders and then having the sheriff's department tell us we couldn't even make a police report unless we had the offender's date of birth and social security number (we we actually traced down via the licence ourselves) only to be further ignored by the police - even when we were able to verify that the guy still lived at the listed address (contrary to the police report on the investigation).

Buy a GUN shoot to KILL throw the body in the RIVER and get your own stuff back. Don't worry the cops are way to busy to look into what happened to the skum who stole your scooter. Useless sacks of sh^t.


As far as the 2nd offense theory goes it turns out this "gang" was already well known for breaking into vehicles and ripping off car radios - but didn't inspirre the cops to any effect of law enforcement past filing a report.

Way to go Gary! Now thats a proper response! Seriously, if your cell phone has a GPS, can't it be zip-tied inside the shroud right before a dive?
I don't know, someone with knowledge in this matter let me know. Unfortunately, we all have to police our own sh^t, and have your buddy wait by your vehicle while you get a deco bottle, or wait in the water with the equipment while your buddie goes to the vehicle, and lock everything up. Thats about all you can do. All this sucks though.

[Genesis]

Most phones do not have a GPS in them but they can still be traced by triangulation with great accuracy. Unfortunately the cell companies WILL NOT DO IT without an ACTIVE police request to do so.

[amphipod06]

Way to go Gary! Now thats a proper response! Seriously, if your cell phone has a GPS, can't it be zip-tied inside the shroud right before a dive?
I don't know, someone with knowledge in this matter let me know. Unfortunately, we all have to police our own sh^t, and have your buddy wait by your vehicle while you get a deco bottle, or wait in the water with the equipment while your buddie goes to the vehicle, and lock everything up. Thats about all you can do. All this sucks though.

My buddy waits just like me, with the Glock ready....

I am thinking that there must be a company out there that makes some sort of product where you can tag your equipment and valuables in such way that it can be recovered and then prove that you are the rightful owner. Even if there are no S/N's it is still a small community and hopefully, our buddies are careful as to where they purchase "used" equipment.

Dive safe,

Celia

[Walter Pickel]

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