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    Quote Originally Posted by mrpolar
    Hey
    i am a college student and i have to write a term paper for my technical writing course. I wanted to write about the history of caving diving and evolution of cave diving gear. If any one knows of any links it would be appreciated.

    thanks
    If you're in Galveston and interested in caves, surely you know of Prof. Tom Iliffe? He can probably loan you all the books you'll need for this project. Too bad he wasn't there when I studied marine biology.

    One book that hasn't been mentioned yet is "Deep into Blue Holes", by Rob Palmer...has some nice details of the tools developed by Benjamin.

    As for links, here's a couple:

    http://www.diverite.com/TecTalk/line...linearrows.htm
    http://www.diverite.com/TecTalk/back.../backplate.htm


    Dave


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    Hey,

    I know all these people are not really popular around these neck of the woods.
    But I think you have a few important names missing.

    Bill “Hogarth” Main is shortly noticed, but as the paper would not only be about cave diving, but also cave diving equipment I believe you have to give him the honour of the hogarthian system.

    Also Gorge Irvine and Jarrod Jablonski should be mentioned, as there world record dives during the 1990 is a part of cave diving history.

    As a newcomer we have to mention Casey McKinlay, who holds the world record with JJ.

    I don’t believe you can write a paper about cave diving, without mentioning the WKPP or the EKPP.

    You can find info about these guys at http://gue.com/Projects/WKPP/History/index.html

    Anders Knudsen
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    Thanks for the links and the books to read.

    I think i might just switch my topic to The History of SCUBA just because there is currently more information available and i have a limited amount of time to write the paper.

    Some one metioned Dr.Ilife as a source. I have had the pleasure to have taken several of the courses he overs and diving with him!
    I will be taking Biospeleology with him in the fall !

    thanks again for the help!

    Jared


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    Quote Originally Posted by mrpolar
    I think i might just switch my topic to The History of SCUBA
    Jared
    Great, then perhaps during your research you can uncover the real story behind Cousteau and Gagnan. My boss claims the former sent the latter on a one-way trip to the bottom of the ocean in order to claim all the glory and fame for himself. I don't know his source, though.

    Also, I personally don't think it's particularly necessary to include world records in a historical account unless that is the focus of the article. Of course, that's up to the author (and editor).

    Dave


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    Quote Originally Posted by mrpolar
    I think i might just switch my topic to The History of SCUBA just because there is currently more information available and i have a limited amount of time to write the paper.
    Clive Gardener (a UK cave explorer and film producer) has produced two excellent video tapes on the history of diving in conjuction with the Historical Diving Society (with some emphasis on cave diving) see: http://www.secret-bottletop.com/diving/index.html

    also:

    http://www.thehds.com/


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    Quote Originally Posted by loquat149
    in order to claim all the glory and fame for himself.
    I find Aqualung's motto, "First to Dive" quite puzzling. Does anybody believe that propaganda?

    Scuba had been around for years before Cousteau ever did it. The main problem was that they only had constant-flow regulators, so a lot of gas was lost. They all knew a demand regulator would be a godsend, and Cousteau went to Gagnan, knowing he could design and build one.

    First to dive?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Sludge
    Quote Originally Posted by loquat149
    in order to claim all the glory and fame for himself.
    I find Aqualung's motto, "First to Dive" quite puzzling. Does anybody believe that propaganda?

    Scuba had been around for years before Cousteau ever did it. The main problem was that they only had constant-flow regulators, so a lot of gas was lost. They all knew a demand regulator would be a godsend, and Cousteau went to Gagnan, knowing he could design and build one.

    First to dive?
    Gee, do you mean that some corporate mottos are a bunch of boowah?
    Who would have thunk it?

    BTW -

    Emile Ganan http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emile_Gagnan

    Also, for those who didn't know Cousteau's Father-in-law provided the money and Ganan for the Aqualung.
    See:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simone_Melchior

    Most of Cousteau's early funding was through Air Liquide.

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    I believe that the Costeau/Gagnan Regulator was invented by 2 Frenchmen Benoit Rouquayrol and Auguste Denayrouze 80 years before Gagan started messing around with a demand regulator that had been used to supply coal gas to an auto carborator during WW2.
    Benoit Rouquayrol invented a demand regulator in 1860, and the Navy Officer Auguste Denayrouze modified it in 1865 for underwater use. Jules Verne appearantly was aware of this device since it was featuren in his book "20,000 Leagues under the sea".
    Unfortunately I've come the conclusion that the only thing invented by Cousteau was his own warped version of the truth. He was the original PR man in almost everthing he did, and was seldom bothered by the truth.
    Michael

    For proof google the names Benoit Rouquayrol and Auguste Denayrouze or see the following link:
    http://www.scienceandsociety.co.uk/r...image=10439414


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    Quote Originally Posted by michael-fisch
    the only thing invented by Cousteau was his own warped version of the truth
    Don't hold back; how do you really feel about Cousteau?


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    Now Steve Zissou, there's a REAL explorer....



 

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